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[-] fubo@lemmy.world 191 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

What baffles me about this whole situation is McDonald's (corporate) role in perpetuating it. It doesn't make sense as a way to squeeze money from the franchises, because the extracted rents¹ don't go to corporate; it goes to Taylor. It's a loss to the franchisee, and no benefit to McDonald's central.

This smells of graft. Someone at McDonald's corporate is getting paid off illicitly.


¹ In the political-economy sense of "rent", not the one that means "lease payment".

[-] AllonzeeLV@lemmy.world 74 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Someone at McDonald's corporate is getting paid off illicitly.

By the values of Corpmurica, that executive is just acting out of rational self-interest.

Isn't our society in favor of fucking over anyone we can for individual profit? Isn't that what we're taught by example to do, lest we be considered an un-American commie?

You can bribe our politicians legally with infinite sums of money to PACs since Citizens United, you think anyone gives a shit about bribing a McDonald's executive?

[-] fubo@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Huh? By the rules and values of Corporate America, breaching your employer's trust by taking kickbacks from a contractor would be solidly against the rules.

My suspicion is that McDonald's corporate is not making as much money as it could be, because franchisees are paying Taylor for fake repairs instead of buying more shitty ice cream mix from corporate.

This is not a matter of Good vs Evil. It's one Lawful Evil group getting ripped off by another.

[-] AllonzeeLV@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

breaching your employer's trust

Oh yes, harumph I say! Multinational corporations are as honorable as they are trustworthy, and demand that very same honor and integrity from their executive team in their scrupulous business practices, I say!

Honestly though, do you think sociopathic multinationals like McDonald's have a leg to stand on expecting not to attract people that reflect their lack of values? Garbage attracts garbage. Unrepentant Garbage deserves to suffer garbage.

[-] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

I don't claim to have a solution but one thing that has always bugged me about this. When I award contracts or buy pretty much anything I can't take a bribe of money, but I can take a bribe of effort. It is acceptable for me (I did have this conversation more than once) to straight off tell a salesperson I can go higher on price if they agree to keep prices constant so I don't have to constantly look at them. Or if they agree to do some other time saving measure.

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[-] Buelldozer@lemmy.today 35 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

This smells of graft.

It IS graft. I've forgotten where I ran into the information but someone tracked it down. Taylors (the machine company) has an exclusive contract with McDonald's Corporate for the machines and McDonald's Corporate receives a portion of the service revenue whenever a Taylor machine is "fixed".

That's why McDonald's is fighting Kytch / helping Taylor.

[-] nous@programming.dev 6 points 1 year ago

There is also no loss for McDonald's central, but they have a old and close business relationship with Taylor that they seem to care about more than their own franchise owners.

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[-] irmoz@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

Graft means hard, honest work. Maybe you mean grift.

[-] techt@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

graft [ graft, grahft ]

  1. the acquisition of money, gain, or advantage by dishonest, unfair, or illegal means, especially through the abuse of one's position or influence in politics, business, etc.

  2. a particular instance, method, or means of thus acquiring gain or advantage.

Well I'll be. TIL!

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[-] krayj@sh.itjust.works 128 points 1 year ago

There's already a link to the vid talking about the utter bullshit and corruption surrounding the McD's ice cream machines posted in this thread, but here's a resource I haven't seen posted yet: an online tracker to find out if your local McD's ice cream machine is working or broken right now.

https://mcbroken.com/

(love the domain name)

[-] Aatube@kbin.social 18 points 1 year ago

I swear that site makes green dots smaller until they disappear when you zoom out. Still pretty cool though, our nearest McDonalds has a broken ice cream machine

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[-] user224@lemmy.sdf.org 11 points 1 year ago
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[-] XTornado@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 year ago
[-] krayj@sh.itjust.works 21 points 1 year ago

They reverse engineered the ordering API (that the app uses) and try to add a McSundae to an online order. If the ice cream machine is broken, it won't let you add that item to an order for the specific location. If the McSundae machine is working, it will let you add that item to the order for the designated location.

It updates each location every 30 minutes, so is very up to date.

More details about it here: https://hypebeast.com/2020/10/mcbroken-site-mcdonalds-ice-cream-machines-working-tracker-info

[-] fushuan@lemm.ee 11 points 1 year ago

If its the one I know, it sends an online ice cream request through the API, and then cancels the successful ones before they reach the stores. The unsuccessful ones are broken machines, essentially.

[-] nathanielcwm@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

iirc it used to get it through a reverse engineering of the McDonald's app api. Not sure about now tho

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[-] Sanctus@lemmy.world 123 points 1 year ago

Hey, kids! Do you want to play a game? Its called "Everyone In Any Position of Power is Corrupt!"

[-] RiikkaTheIcePrincess@kbin.social 54 points 1 year ago

I freaking hate this game, when can we play something else :(

[-] Sanctus@lemmy.world 32 points 1 year ago

The game only ends when there are no remaining players who can stand or when the players have nothing left, not even the clothes on their backs.

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[-] thefartographer@lemm.ee 16 points 1 year ago

Can you explain the rules? This game kinda sounds like it sucks.

Can you explain the rules?

Here you go! The Rules for Rulers

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[-] vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 year ago

Well if you win ya get a free guillotine!

[-] tesfabpel@lemmy.world 87 points 1 year ago

BTW, fixing broken machines' software (printers) was how Richard Stallman got so frustrated to invent the GPL license...

[-] Asymptote@lemmy.dbzer0.com 23 points 1 year ago

Imagine being the guy who wrote so buggy software that you inadvertently saddled the entire world with rms

[-] atticus88th@lemmy.world 71 points 1 year ago

The Superior Court of Alameda County is charging roughly $1 per page to get legal filings. To download the entirety of the court proceedings to date, the court wants $2,999.

Alright, fuck it! Lets build our own soft serve ice cream machines... with blackjack and hookers.

[-] dmmeyournudes@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

Okay, and then you get fined for violating your franchise contract that requires you use these machines.

[-] wick@lemm.ee 38 points 1 year ago

Pretty sure they explicitly do not want legislators to think they will "hack" them. Is this article shillin' for Taylor?

[-] NotYourSocialWorker@feddit.nu 22 points 1 year ago

You probably already know but hacking originally meant to modify a machine for instance (or furniture as in ikea hacks) but it really is a word one should avoid when speaking with people who aren't part of the communities that use it in its original meaning.

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[-] originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com 32 points 1 year ago

mcdonalds is somehow profiting from this, or it just wouldnt be happening.

[-] baggachipz@sh.itjust.works 15 points 1 year ago

Taylor must pay McDonald’s a tidy sum for the exclusivity contract. Both parties make out like bandits in the deal. I’m kind of surprised McDonald’s never in-housed it out of greed, but that day may be coming due to all the negative publicity.

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[-] wjrii@kbin.social 12 points 1 year ago

From the article: "A DMCA exemption would allow McDonald’s franchises to legally do repair work on their own machines."

[-] Lojcs@lemm.ee 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Wait, copyright can be used to prevent repairs? What is the justification? Is it a "ice cream machine company owns the copyright to mcdonalds ice cream and if you tamper with the machine you can't call it McDonald's ice cream anymore" kind of deal or is tampering straight up illegal?

[-] hedgehog@ttrpg.network 14 points 1 year ago

The DMCA criminalizes the act of circumventing an access control, whether or not there is actual infringement of copyright itself.

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[-] ericisshort@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

More likely someone at McDonalds than the company itself.

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[-] Doomsider@lemmy.world 24 points 1 year ago

Unrelated to the topic but has anyone else noticed the quality of the soft serve has gone down dramatically in the last several years. I got a ice cream cone and it didn't even taste good. I was looking at their advert for a Mcflurry and it looked all ice crystally and not good at all. If they can't even make the picture look good that is saying something.

[-] piecat@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago

Healthy, Fast&Cheap, or Delicious. Pick 2.

[-] lemick24@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago

I think it's more like

Healthy, Fast, Cheap, Delicious

Pick 2

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[-] Floey@lemm.ee 7 points 1 year ago

Don't have to compromise with b e a n s.

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[-] cubedsteaks@lemmy.today 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

gotta go local.

I never get ice cream from fast food chains.

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[-] luthis@lemmy.nz 22 points 1 year ago

I watched a youtube deep dive into this, the corruption is insane.

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