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[-] FangedWyvern42@lemmy.world 75 points 2 years ago

LGBTQ2 - the long-awaited sequel.

[-] ArmokGoB@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 2 years ago

Best thing since they announced pussy 2

[-] BonesOfTheMoon@lemmy.world 66 points 2 years ago

There was a petition to offer refugee status to LGBT Americans put before the House of Commons recently, I just got an email update about it because I signed it, and apparently they accept some refugees on this basis, but it doesn't look like many. I say open the borders and bring me your gays, America. We'll be nicer to them than you are.

[-] PRUSSIA_x86@lemmy.world 17 points 2 years ago

My fiance and I have been looking into moving to Canada. He's a librarian in a small town and things are not looking so great.

[-] BonesOfTheMoon@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago

It's really expensive unfortunately, but it's a hell of a lot safer by and large.

[-] PRUSSIA_x86@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago

We're planning on lilypadding our way up through New England while we go through the citizenship process. These next few years are gonna suck major ass.

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[-] Franzia 6 points 2 years ago

I was born to go dance and cycle all over montreal. Im in a northern state, rural, fuck all going on here.

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[-] OldWoodFrame@lemm.ee 53 points 2 years ago

The "2" is for two-spirited which is a traditional Native American concept and that is neat.

[-] user224@lemmy.sdf.org 49 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

So no LGBTQ sequel? 😥 /j

[-] ivanafterall@kbin.social 46 points 2 years ago
[-] dhork@lemmy.world 32 points 2 years ago

2 Gay 2 Fabulous

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[-] NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 21 points 2 years ago

LGBTQ2: Electric Boogaloo

[-] RGB3x3@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago

LGBTQ2: Electric Boogaloo.

[-] utopianfiat@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago

What's wild about "two-spirit" is that it's not a really definite concept (that is, it is a neologism from 1990 that does not have a universal understanding among tribal traditions) but what it does accomplish is replacing the perjorative European anthropological term

slurberdache, from Arabic burdaj "slave" meaning basically a young male submissive gay partner

[-] poweruser@lemmy.sdf.org 6 points 2 years ago

TIL that term is considered a slur. I remember learning about them in anthropology class ~15 years ago and that was the term used.

So is the respectful terminology today to use whichever modern LGBTQ label is accurate, or should I use two-spirit in historical context?

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[-] jerome@kbin.social 33 points 2 years ago

Wow.. that #2 seems to have taken this article hostage.

[-] Hyperi0n@lemmy.film 7 points 2 years ago

Imagine if it were at the beginning like it is ually displayed in Canada.

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[-] altima_neo@lemmy.zip 27 points 2 years ago

There's a part 2 now? How much better is it? Or is the original always the best?

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[-] zepheriths@lemmy.world 27 points 2 years ago

Damn. New version already?

[-] pastermil@sh.itjust.works 23 points 2 years ago
[-] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Two-Spirited. Apparently it's a Native American term used to indicate a third gender.

[-] chronicledmonocle@lemmy.world 19 points 2 years ago

LGBTQ2: Electric Bugaloo

[-] MossyFeathers@pawb.social 17 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

“Not all countries have the same values and legal system that we have in Canada. As a result, it is important for you to be informed about the legal framework and social customs governing sexual orientation, gender identity, gender expression and sex characteristics in your destination country,” that page notes.

Wow, way to understate that. I suppose they have to downplay it though because if they were honest about the state of the US then they'd have to acknowledge that large swaths of the US can no longer be considered even remotely safe for members of the LGBT community. As such, they would have to consider the possibility that of members of the LGBT community might seek asylum in Canada and if so, that they could no longer turn them away on the basis that the US is a safe harbor (iirc many countries ban US citizens from seeking asylum because the US is supposed to be a "safe country").

Edit: Canada likes to claim that LGBT people from the US and UK can achieve refugee status, however the US-Canada Safe Third Country agreement says otherwise. Note that while there are exceptions to the agreement, none of them involve people who are members of the LGBT and/or BIPOC communities. In fact, it sounds like, based on the canada.ca link, that Canada recently expanded it to make it harder for people to claim refugee status if they're coming from the US, which is kinda the opposite of what they should be doing.

[-] Smacks@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago

I hope the new v2 update doesn't come with a battlepass.

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[-] sofazen_world@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago

Strangely Canada is the only country I travelled to from Europe where I was verbally asked in their airport border control: if I was Mormon, as not, what my religion was, and if I was gay. Not the tolerant country I always heard about.

[-] Midnight_Ice@lemmy.ca 18 points 2 years ago

I live in Canada and I've never heard of this happening. Did they just straight up ask you this at customs?

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[-] Gingerrific@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago

At least make the lie believable

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[-] Surp@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago
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[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago

I can't say I blame them.

[-] Fubar91@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Damn all these comments discrediting the 2, just like all the NA migrants discredit Native Americans rights.

Talk about doubling down on bigotry towards a race of people. Sheeesh, some of y'all are hypocritical.

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[-] alertsleeper@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago

honest question, what's this "two-spirit" term? I can't find a straight forward explanation on the web

[-] Drivebyhaiku@lemmy.world 18 points 2 years ago

Two Spirit is a non binary identity with a specific cultural context within the history of indigenous peoples. In Canada, due to the increased focus on dealing with the reconciliation of Indigenous peoples the current Acronym is 2SLGBTQIA as it sort of symbolicly puts precedent on amplifying indigenous voices in the movement.

[-] paris 15 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Most places in the world recognize two genders and their respective social roles: men and women. Some places recognize a third gender and its respective social and/or ceremonial role. This is the case for (some) North American Indigenous people, and two-spirit is a catch-all term to refer to a third gender role that they recognize.

It's hard to map onto the more standard two gender system that most of us are familiar with. When you think of men as the breadwinners and women as the child bearers, some cultures think of an additional distinct third gender with a designated social/ceremonial role.

But as you might have thought while reading that, men being the breadwinners and women being the child bearers is already a fairly outdated view of gender and social roles. Turns out social constructs are messier than they seem when you start to really analyze them and attempt to strictly define them.

TLDR: two-spirit is a catch-all term for a type of queer identity recognized by some North American Indigenous cultures.

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[-] JoJoGAH@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago

So nice to see public safety taken seriously. I don't fit into the letters but also know full well that if a state is that intolerant then I won't fare well either so I avoid said state. With the atmosphere some states are building , anyone can be caught up in their net of Others to be othered. Hell they can just make shit up as they are doing already, logic and reasoning are not a part of this whole scheme.

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