After my long relationship (7+), i started dating again. Unfortunately i discovered that no one is looking for a meaningful connection or a serious conversation. Everyone wants to catered and be heard, no one wants to listen for just a second. I actively stopped myself from flirting/dating anymore, it’s just a complete waste of time 🤷‍♂️im sorry to say many many many girls are VERY VERY superficial people.

Well, there was a time when women were THE thing making men happy. In modern age, we have computers.

Men are finally leaving women alone? I never thought I would see this day!

I've tried and I'm still trying. As someone who is a bit shorter than average and is socially awkward, it's tough. Recently I've been able to get dates with 3 girls from dating apps (due to me being better at flirting and getting a few more matches than before), but they all went nowhere.

1 girl didn't seem to want any touching or flirty things on the first date and the conversation wasn't smooth, so I friendzoned her.

The other 2 girls immediately started with a flirty text conversation.

I hit it off with first one over text, we were having long phone calls and sending raunchy stuff over text. I had one short date with and was planning a spicier 2nd date with but she cancelled because I asked her to be my Valentine on Valentine's Day.

The 2nd one wanted to take things slower, and friendzoned me after 2 longer dates. She also wasn't that into touching.

I never kissed any of these girls. I don't know what I'm doing wrong, especially with the first flirty girl.

Women have been told they only need to exist to be desired and are not putting any effort at the beginning of the relationship and men are getting tired of doing all the lift without any reciprocation.

That has been my experience, anyway, and I'm getting tired of meeting women that show no effort to make things work.

People used to “socialize” in person. We had nightclubs, bars, parties, dances. Young people gathered and met—in person. That doesn’t seem to happen anymore. Why?? The allure of nightclubs was live bands… too expensive now. Bars?… too expensive now outside of special occasions. Dances? Not sure what happened there… too expensive to rent a hall and hire music? And parties? Not sure about that either.

For what reason would men randomly approach women? Women online have made it clear that doing so results in being made fun of, that women hate the features of testosterone-having men, and they've made it clear there is a long list of "icks" that you can't have.

The only dating i do is within the circles of friends.

Currently working on an absolute package, btw. Funny, fun, beautiful, sheeeeeesh.
The heart flutters at the thought.

Didn't they explicitly ask via #metoo movement and what not for men to NOT approach them directly ever or else they screem that this is harassment?

Maybe because they are getting advice from other men how to trick a girl into giving them sex, this why alot look to pickup artist, it involves manipulation and tricks. They got so used to it, they don't even ask people

is the joke here that this thread is fake and gay?

Did i do a 4chan correctly?

EDIT: this comment section is filled with children apparently, not sure they knew lemmy existed, but i guess that answers that question huh.

Anon is probably in the US: social media, smartphones, and 3rd wave feminism in a deeply religious, traditional, and divided society would explain their problems.

For me at this point in my life trying to find someone to date just isn't worth the effort. I have limited time, money, and mental energy and there are better ways to spend it than on women who for the most part won't be interested in me anyway. Unless the relationship turns out great and we're amazingly compatible it's going to add more stress than it's worth. I still go out with my friend (about 30% of whom are women) and we do various activities that I enjoy. I have hobbies that interest me and basically all my free time is occupied between stuff I want to do and chores. If some woman I know I get along with likes me enough to pursue something romantic I might give it a shot but otherwise I'm comfortable with things as they are and I don't want to risk fucking that up by adding someone else into the mix.

These types of posts always get so spicy, and not in a fun way.

Most of the men in these comments have never tried speaking to a women.

Tbh I would probably try speed dating if I was looking for someone these days. I don't think I would have at 18-25 though.

They'd rather complain about being single and resent women than become vulnerable enough to make a real human connection.

if bars are empty that's because you live in a weird suburb

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