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American justice (lemmy.world)
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[-] ChristmasApe@discuss.online 156 points 4 months ago

How many non-billionaire’s lives are equal to one billionaire’s life?

If you had less than 24 I have bad news for you.

[-] BrokenGlepnir@lemmy.world 17 points 4 months ago

Multi millionaire right? I think he was the top 1 percent of 1 percent, but I don't think he broke 1 billion.

[-] Jakule17@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago

3/5

Although it’s more like 3/5000

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[-] Treczoks@lemmy.world 135 points 4 months ago

None of the 23 was a millionaire.

[-] rippersnapper@lemm.ee 78 points 4 months ago

It’s been pretty clear for sometime that in the US laws don’t apply equally to everyone.

[-] Dragonstaff@leminal.space 48 points 4 months ago

There were two immigrant teenagers murdered in NYC the same day as Thompson. Nobody cared in the slightest.

[-] Schadrach@lemmy.sdf.org 11 points 4 months ago

Obviously not. As we've already ascertained from OP, one murder of a rich is worth more than 23 murders of non-white commoners. A mere 2 non-citizen commoners isn't going to make them blink an eye.

[-] skozzii@lemmy.ca 3 points 4 months ago

And just think of the media circus if the world didn't like and support Luigi the more they hear about him, they tried a blitz at first and it just helped Luigis popularity.. so this is the silent mode.

[-] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world 23 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Serial killers like Ted Bundy, state charges. Even though he crossed several states. Yet this has federal charges for some reason.

[-] Jumpingspiderman@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago

"For some reason". I'd go with "For removing a useful tool of the Oligarchs"

[-] GladiusB@lemmy.world 7 points 4 months ago

They should. But when the Supreme Court is corrupt, this is what happens.

[-] butwhyishischinabook@lemmy.world 8 points 4 months ago

It's all courts, let's not pretend it was different for most people 10 years ago.

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[-] YummyEntropy@lemmy.ca 3 points 4 months ago

Circa 1776, more specifically.

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[-] Formfiller@lemmy.world 40 points 4 months ago

His legal fund on give send go broke 800k today

[-] MutilationWave@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 4 months ago

give, send, go broke

[-] humanspiral@lemmy.ca 37 points 4 months ago

UH CEO was provably guilty of deep evil and harm against millions of Americans. El Paso Walmart shoppers not at all. Even the premise that they as a race are somehow bad for America is highly suspect. Among the murdered, only 8 were Mexican. 13 Americans and a German. The political terrorism charge that applies to UH CEO, applies way more to this murder. 50/50 there's a pardon, and new GOP speaking tour.

[-] Zink@programming.dev 18 points 4 months ago

Ugh, for somebody from Europe to visit the states and then get gunned down in a mass shooting at a Walmart, could there be a more stereotypical “experience America” than that?

[-] _stranger_@lemmy.world 15 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Having to deal with the hospital bills afterwards if they survive?

[-] Zink@programming.dev 7 points 4 months ago

Damn it, you are totally right.

[-] PunkRockSportsFan@fanaticus.social 30 points 4 months ago

Free Luigi

Franchise Luigi

Sic semper exploiters

[-] SSNs4evr@leminal.space 28 points 4 months ago

I'm certainly not the 1st, or thousandth person to say it....we have a legal system, not a justice system. Luigi showed us all a flash of a justice system.

[-] TomAwsm@lemmy.world 12 points 4 months ago

New idea for a ~~band name~~ law firm name:

23andPlea

[-] Sludgeyy@lemmy.world 7 points 4 months ago

"Montoya (DA) said he supports the death penalty and believes Crusius deserves it. But he said he met with the families of the victims and while some were willing to wait as long as it took for a death sentence, there was an overriding desire to conclude the process."

NPR news

This is the problem

You can throw a man that pleads guilty in jail for 90 consecutive life sentences and be "over"

Now, to see if he really did it and deserves the death penalty...yeah going to have to take a lot longer to just make sure....

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[-] iAmTheTot@sh.itjust.works 7 points 4 months ago

To play Devil's advocate, the bottom one was offered a plea deal. That's different than not pursuing the death penalty.

[-] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 55 points 4 months ago

And why was that not offered to Luigi?

[-] Cort@lemmy.world 14 points 4 months ago

They think they have a solid frame-up

[-] iAmTheTot@sh.itjust.works 4 points 4 months ago

Do we know that one wasn't offered? I was under the impression that Luigi has been pretty set on fighting the charges from the get go.

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[-] Doctor_Satan@lemm.ee 41 points 4 months ago

To play Devil’s advocate, the bottom one was offered a plea deal.

That's kinda the point. Why wasn't Mangione offered a plea deal?

Also, why did the DOJ intervene and add the federal qualifier of "murder in furtherance of an act of terrorism" to Mangione's charges in order to put the death penalty on the table (NY state doesn't have the death penalty), but didn't add it to the charges of the guy who murdered 23 Hispanic people specifically to terrorize the Hispanic community?

[-] uienia@lemmy.world 37 points 4 months ago

Why is a plea deal even necessary for a mass murderer?

[-] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 6 points 4 months ago

Get a guilty plea, eliminates a lot of appeals, dude spends life in prison.

[-] iAmTheTot@sh.itjust.works 2 points 4 months ago

Plea deals are not unusual. It speeds up the process. Plus, not everyone approves of the death penalty, so a DA securing a plea deal by taking death off the table can even be favourable to some people.

[-] Dragonstaff@leminal.space 4 points 4 months ago

I am against the death penalty. I am not in favor of the state executing someone accused of killing a rich person while pretending that keeping the White Supremacist alive is a nod to my ideology.

[-] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago

I'm pro-killing-shitty-people, but I don't trust our justice system to consistently and accurately determine guilt, and thus I must be against the death penalty as currently implemented.

[-] Dragonstaff@leminal.space 2 points 4 months ago

I am against the death penalty full stop. There is no way for humans, let alone groups of humans, to implement kill people justly.

I'm just saying that executing people the government doesn't like while not doing so for right wing terrorists is neither a compromise nor a step in the right direction.

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[-] pyre@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago

it is but the problem with playing devil's advocate is that sometimes you actually advocate for the devil.

[-] Phoenicianpirate@lemm.ee 5 points 4 months ago

Something tells me that Trump will soon be pardoning everyone accused of a hate crime. But only the white on nonwhite kind. He might even go so far as to demand the release of Alexandre Bissonnette from Canada and grant him American citizenship. Bissonnette was the Quebec City Mosque shooter in 2017 who shot 7 Muslims dead in Quebec. He is a Canadian born Canadian citizen. He was inspired to do primarily by Ben Shapiro.

[-] Cantaloupe877@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago

They gotta get rid of him, he's a symbol to people.

[-] Snowclone@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago

They really needed him to confess to killing 23 people in public under CCTV cameras, it would have been dozens of people's words against his and the only hard evidence HD video of it happening! How else could they have won the case?

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