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[-] phubarr@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago

We're successfully distracted by the more immediate personal problems they've created for us

[-] Floon@lemmy.ml 17 points 1 day ago
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[-] tocopherol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 1 day ago

It's been a rogue state for decades, they call it 'American Exceptionalism', and the 'patriotic Americans' are happy about it.

[-] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmy.ml 67 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Imagine reading some fiction book, like fantasy or something like that.

You see a state that was created by genocide, which was continued until there was barely anyone left to kill, which state then became world hegemon, took control over nearly entire planet economy and proceeded to find new targets for genocide, ecocide, invasion, looting and murdering every political opponent.

You would think it's caricaturally evil, worse than Mordor.

And here you ask "they are now definitely a rogue state"? Now?

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[-] mindaika@lemmy.dbzer0.com 21 points 2 days ago

The average person is not deeply aware of this stuff. All y’all don’t have any fucking clue what the average American is like.

Most people are just trying to get through the day. They want to pay their bills and make sure the kids are fed and Sally needs to get to dance class and Bobby has been having problems at school and now the boss wants to get that foundation poured tomorrow so you’re gonna have to stay late, but your wife can’t leave work early to pick up the kids so now you have to deal with that and oh, eggs cost double what they did a year ago and you haven’t gotten a real raise since 2021.

They don’t have time to spend on Lemmy, figure out how to use Linux, learn what a tariff is, or debate the difference between gender and sex, or read about what the Heritage Foudnation does. I do, but I’m not most people and the more y’all keep acting like those people aren’t like you people the more problems you’re gonna keep making for yourself.

Grow the fuck up

[-] DandomRude@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago

I'm not from the US - that's why I'm asking. Thanks for the insights into the lives of US citizens. It's even sadder than I thought. But rest assured: it's not like this everywhere in the world. Not yet at least and the rest of the world just needs to see that your horrible government doesn't force your way of life on everyone - because that's what Trump and his criminal crew want.

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[-] kikutwo@lemmy.world 21 points 2 days ago

Half are aware, the other half is happy about how things are going. Apparently we have hundreds of millions of racist dumbfucks here.

[-] Ferrous@lemmy.ml 19 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

There are plenty of racists who aren't fascist. There are plenty or countries with racism problems that aren't fascist. There are plenty of dumbfucks who aren't fascist. There are plenty of illiterate countries that aren't fascist. "Stupidity" (im being careful here - i dont think illiteracy = stupid) and racism predates fascism.

Youve reached the limit of the liberal ideological framework and have resorted to explaining fascism as some sort of cultural pathology. This is what happens when your idealist politics prioritizes individual psychology and moralistic explanations over historical and economic analysis.

It's frustrating seeing liberals watch the fascist devolution in real-time, and just throw up their hands saying "well i guess americans are just stupid! QED!". It conveniently absolves them for their complicity in facilitating fascism, and it spits in the face of victims of US policy, both foreign and abroad.

[-] kikutwo@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago

Well I voted against the Orange fascist. Should I go hold an anti Tesla sign at a dealership? What do you expect the response should be with the next presidential election four years away?

[-] Ferrous@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 day ago

Honestly dog, this is exactly the right question. I get it. Shoutout to you for asking it. Truly.

From the liberal perspective, this is exactly how it goes. "I voted against fascism, yet fascism still festers. What gives?"

The liberal framework pushes the idea that electoralism is the be all end all form of political participation, but leftists refute this. Leftists say that you have a plethora of other tools at your disposal to express yourself politically: buy a gun, do mutual aid, join an organization, read theory, participate in local politics, etc...

If your question is earnest, I'd encourage you to read some Lenin.

[-] BartyDeCanter@lemmy.sdf.org 257 points 2 days ago

As is typical for the US, 1/3 are deeply aware, 1/3 are in full "patriotic" support, and 1/3 are too distracted by the latest TikTok dance to notice.

[-] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 160 points 2 days ago

In a burning house with three people, one is fighting the fire, one is pouring gasoline on everything and one is on the couch watching TV.

[-] nfreak@lemmy.ml 63 points 2 days ago

Let's add a 4th person in there, someone who thinks they're helping by doing nothing but yelling that the fire isn't allowed to burn things

[-] HiddenLayer555@lemmy.ml 63 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

More like yelling at the one fighting the fire because they're getting water everywhere

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[-] bilb@lem.monster 4 points 1 day ago

The phrase "rogue state" to me always just sorta meant "uncooperative with the United States," which the United States can't be. I'm sure there's a more useful definition.

[-] loweffortname 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Honestly? I think the US can be uncooperative with itself. At this point, nothing would really surprise me.

[-] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 19 points 2 days ago

Now? USA has been supporting a genocidal nuclear regime in palestine for decades. They've been threatening and attacking every state in the region. Total rogue.

[-] Irelephant@lemm.ee 16 points 1 day ago

Between the media surpression and the fact a lot of people don't follow the news, or give a shit, i'd say no.

[-] modernangel@sh.itjust.works 20 points 2 days ago

Lots and lots of people, actually. Many identify with the tough-talkin' images being projected, believing it's just what the world needs and that the magic sorting hat will assign them to the privileged class when the dust settles.

[-] peteyestee@feddit.org 3 points 1 day ago

"...that's what America needs, a businessman."

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[-] barneypiccolo@lemm.ee 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Half of America are horrified by it, and the other half think it's something to be proud of, because they're ignorant neanderthals.

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[-] lorski@sopuli.xyz 8 points 1 day ago

Our media is in cahoots with the Trump Admin, so what do you think?

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[-] TheAlbatross 150 points 2 days ago

I see a lot of people starting gardens or looking to getting chickens to be as self sufficient as they can. Many are holding off on large purchases to save in case "something happens". People around me who were never interested in firearms and in fact were generally opposed to them are starting to arm themselves at a rapid pace.

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[-] vvilld@lemmy.world 18 points 2 days ago

Those of us who pay attention know.

However, the media ecosystem is INCREDIBLY conservative and pumps out the rah-rah jingoism whenever it can. Those of who just stick to the mainstream echochambers think the US is a bastion of freedom and peace.

[-] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.dbzer0.com 23 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

How I pointed something out to a family member this morning.

When Israel attacks housing units in a country it is in a "ceasefire" with, the media says they are "threatening the ceasefire." If someone fires back. The media will say Israel is being attacked and the ceasefire was broken by the other party.

While that should seem wrong to many, it flies under the radar for most

[-] vvilld@lemmy.world 12 points 2 days ago

Great example! These little turns of phrases and wordplay that reveal the incredible right-wing bias of our media are all over the place if you learn how to look for them.

Another great example you see all the time is "office involved shooting" whenever someone is shot by police. It's always something like "John Smith died after an officer involved shooting" or "a gun was discharged in an officer involved shooting that resulted in the death of Jane Smith." Where it should be "Officer Joe Blow murdered John and Jane Smith."

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[-] MetalMachine@feddit.nl 9 points 1 day ago

We've been in a rogue state for a long time. Its been an oligarchy for a while, now you also have AIPAC in the mix.

[-] toadjones79@lemm.ee 50 points 2 days ago

Most of us are either completely deluded or utterly crushed by the collapse of our entire system of government. We know this is corrupt, and we want to organize to bring it to an end. But we have so many checks and balances that even if we all marched today with pitchforks and torches it wouldn't effect any real change without burning down every police station, city hall, state house, and the federal buildings. All while hoping the military doesn't show up and now us down with their weaponry. All the whole knowing that there has been a sharp rise in the popularity of police using violence and death as a deterrent.

In short, we know, and we can't see any way out of this mess. It wasn't supposed to be possible, and looking back we all saw it coming. But we were just dismissed as alarmists every time we spoke up and we are surrounded by morons who think this is the best thing that has ever happened to this national.

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[-] knightly@pawb.social 57 points 2 days ago

Roughly half of the population has absolutely no clue what's going on. Kids, old people, non-news-readers/viewers, etc.

A third of the population is vaguely aware that some shit is going down based on vibes but can't identify the problem.

Half the remaining sixth can identify the problem as political but misattribute the cause. Leaving just a 12th of the population actually aware of our situation.

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[-] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago

Nope, because most US voters never crossed their county line.

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[-] slaneesh_is_right@lemmy.org 19 points 2 days ago

Are people in the us aware... No!

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