I think were still pretty far away from a true Linux phone it seems we're in the Linux desktop circa 2002. Unless you're willing to deal with alpha software its still best to flash a ROM.
i started to use ubuntu touch on a pixel5 in 2020. did this for almost two years until the phone broke down. it also was my first smartphone. so it opened up new possibilities.
i switched to a google free android after this. honestly i miss ubuntu touch from time to time especialy for its keyboard. i never used banking apps or the like, but even now there is one app i need some workarounds. so yeah. i guess the linux phone is viable for me. i just didn't want to go for second hand hardware this time. and at the time the phone i went for wasn't yet supported by ut.
haven't had a look into the linux phone for a while. but will definetly, the next time i need to switch phones
Ubuntu Touch is such a nice user experience. If it had an Android-tier app ecosystem it'd be a very nice daily driver.
back then it didn't have signal-client i could get to work. that is of course a hard no if you work in the us military ...
Sounds like it's possible, but maybe with a backup phone. Unfortunately I do have some apps that I need to be able to run which only support iOS and android
anbox exists. but yeah. it's not for everyone and every situation.
Anbox is dead,wadroid exist nowdays
nowhere close to being daily driver material. and I don't mean the esoteric stuff you mention (NFC, 5G, etc.) I mean just normal, everyday stuff, like you turn it on and it works. source: I own the fastest device supported by pmOS and no UI (gnome, phosh, plasma, etc) works even remotely acceptable.
this is a fun project to tinker with and marvel at some choices made but if you're thinking you can switch, that's simply not an item on the menu.
them guys are working on super-complex stuff with no funds to speak of and expecting anything resembling an OS that's developed for close to two decades by the richest corporations in the world isn't realistic.
sucks to hear, but thanks for your info!!
you should definitely pick up a oneplus 6 or POCO F1 or similar (8 GB RAM), they should be in the $50 range and play around with it. the OS will get better with participation and there's a number of things you can do on there that's downright impossible on Android. I'm just cautioning that it's not a substitute; but neither was Linux not that long ago.
A lot of banking apps don't even run on a custom Android ROM and it gets worse. Haven't tried CJK keyboards on PostmarketOS so wondering that as well.
I've used a pinephone pro with arch and postmarket.
It works, but you really have to love linux to use it as a daily driver.
My banking app (bunq) worked using way droid.
!linuxphones@lemmy.ca and !linuxphones@lemmy.ml aren't the busiest communities but there do seem to be a few people giving it a proper go
I am very interested in hearing first hand accounts as well. Specifically Librem that one looks cool.
Android is Linux.
I figure that people are able to tell from context that I mean GNU/Linux
I just think it's worth to keep in mind that the most widely used smartphone OS already is a Linux... especially since people who want so called "real Linux phones" end up wanting to run Android crapware on them anyway.
If you want a Linux phone that can run Android apps, they are very plentiful. You can even run so-called Linux applications including entire desktop environments. Android is very much not a "fake Linux."
(That is not to say I have no interest in non-Android Linuxes, I just don't think it's worth switching just so you can claim to run "real Linux")
to a similar extent as windows is DOS
Yes, pre-NT Windows actually was DOS. Windows 95 was MS-DOS 7.0.
Maybe 'the same way windows is' IBM-DOS
I was trying to show that android is not really Linux. it has lots of changes both to the kernel and the userspace
Linux is the kernel, so the userspace is irrelevant. And I'm not sure what the exact amount of Linux you can change before it is no longer Linux, but it's Linux enough to run entire desktop environments.
Soon to be closed-software Linux??? /s
Sadly linux on phones is currently in its infancy. I mean, there is a reason why people use other custom ROMs and not linux. I ended up just switching to lineage os, at least it works
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