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YSK that a new internet/account bypass during Windows 11 installs already exists. Here is a 7 step guide. (www.neowin.net)

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This might be relevant to those who wish / have to use Windows 11:

This week, Microsoft made it very clear that it wants to block the popular BYPASSNRO workaround, used to skip the internet and Microsoft Account requirement checks during the Windows 11 installation OOBE (initial setup), although thankfully, the script can still be created using Registry edits.

A 7 step guide.

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[-] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 77 points 6 days ago

"Linux is far too complex for the common person to use."

Installing windows without your data being harvested: 7 steps, then editing registry files, uninstalling most of the programs that come with it and get reinstalled with every update, use this command prompt, download this program from a random website you've never heard of before...

Installing Linux without your data being harvested: Click continue.

Linux is so difficult you guys, no one could possibly learn the command line.

[-] utopiah@lemmy.world 26 points 6 days ago

Linux is so difficult you guys, no one could possibly learn the command line.

In the vast VAST majority of "normal" use cases, which I'd argue for most people it's :

Web browsing
watching videos or listening to music
editing text documents, spreadsheets, presentations
playing video games
managing files, e.g. moving them in directories, compressing them, etc
keeping the system up to date
using a printer

there are reliable ways to use a GUI. So... even though IMHO the command line is absolutely worth learning, one can perfectly use Linux my "just" clicking their way around.

[-] uniquethrowagay@feddit.org 22 points 6 days ago

I work in IT (almost exclusively Windows) and have been using Linux on my private machines for 8 years now. I barely know anything about the command line. I don't have to be a Linux nerd because it just works with the GUI. (KDE Plasma. Can't speak for other DEs)

[-] mriormro@lemm.ee 9 points 6 days ago

I work in IT

You are not a common user.

[-] vxx@lemmy.world 9 points 6 days ago

He doesnt use the command line

[-] cute_noker@feddit.dk 6 points 5 days ago

Maybe he really sucks at his job

[-] InternetCitizen2@lemmy.world 7 points 5 days ago

Method acting approach to IT

[-] seventythreeyards@lemm.ee 2 points 5 days ago

it unironically sounds like a good approach for some roles, though?

[-] cute_noker@feddit.dk 1 points 5 days ago

I think our IT department is full of them, because they crash everyone's computers every other month

[-] chaogomu@lemmy.world 8 points 6 days ago

I've swapped back and forth between Linux and Windows a half dozen times now, and I can honestly say, both are a bitch to set up from a clean install.

Even with guides and autoloading scripts and whatnot, it's still going to be a few days of pain while you try to figure out what else needs to be installed to use the computer the way you want to use it.

Or that's how it works for me.

I mostly just wish more games were linux native.

[-] mr_pip@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 6 days ago

can you explain why it takes you that long to set up a new linux install? for me a fresh install with a (really not complex) script to install my required software and copying over config files takes maybe one hour (excluding game downloads of course).

genuinely interested if your setup is that much more complex or where the difference comes from.

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[-] Adulated_Aspersion@lemmy.world 27 points 6 days ago

Install. Linux. Mint.

My sarcasm has less steps than this workaround. A linux install has less steps than that.

[-] banazir@lemmy.ml 9 points 5 days ago

Honestly, guys, gals and others, Microsoft is making it crystal clear they don't want you to use their OS. It's not your OS, it's theirs. Stop trying mangle it into something it is not. If you need registry edits just to make the OS usable, it's not worth it. It's not for you. Please, please, please look at alternatives that respect you, your intelligence, your privacy and your data. One day Microsoft will push an update that will lock you out of your machine unless you create an account. Jumping through these hoops is just delaying the inevitable. Using an OS is not worth all this effort and stress.

[-] Surp@lemmy.world 44 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Lemmy is the 1.45% user base on steam hardware surveys os section. https://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey/Steam-Hardware-Software-Survey-Welcome-to-Steam

By far most people want to use windows. The people that are loud on here about Linux are the only ones that don't so thank you for a solution that's not the constant post saying just install Linux. Its not intuitive for almost all users aside IT people and enthusiasts.

[-] AlecSadler@sh.itjust.works 17 points 6 days ago

It's not even viable for me. I simply cannot use Linux daily because all my jobs require software that doesn't have a Linux version, or it does but it's lacking necessary features, or there's an alternative but I have to burn extra hours making it work with their systems/setup - hours I don't have.

Or I have to use internally configured Remote Desktop profiles over a VPN (not to be confused with RDP), and you can't do that specific use case on Linux because it requires using the company's internal Windows Store with specific Remote Desktop installation.

Or I have to use a specific Outlook instance, locally installed, because somehow they've blocked web access (I still haven't figured out exactly how they set this up).

After a 12 hour day, sure, I can switch back to my dual boot Linux instance and spend 1-2 hours for personal use. But the ratio is still Windows-leaning no matter how you slice it.

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[-] utopiah@lemmy.world 9 points 6 days ago

By far most people want to use windows.

Do they though? I'd bet a significant share do not "want" to, but they are stuck there, convinced there are no viable alternatives.

[-] AstralPath@lemmy.ca 6 points 6 days ago

If installing something like Linux Mint is not intuitive enough for someone, they probably don't even know what they're doing on Windows either.

[-] JustAnotherKay@lemmy.world 8 points 6 days ago

Honestly a lot of people just don't realize how easy it actually is. They think it's something arcane and strange

[-] AstralPath@lemmy.ca 4 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

You down vote me for saying the truth.

If you think installing Linux is hard you've either never done it and let other people dictate your opinions, you're incompetent with computers or you can't follow a simple step-by-step guide.

If you or someone you know sucks with computers, that's fine. I get not moving someone from Win to Linux if they can't understand the digital equivalent of tying their shoes. Just get a Chromebook if that's the case.

Barring cases of disability, using Windows at a basic level is not hard. Most home users use it to browse the dust on the upper crust of the internet, write a doc, print shit and nothing more. I bet if you swapped Win for Linux on most people's computers and riced it to look like Win 11 many of them would be none the wiser.

Also, if you're a Lemmy user and you have a basic understanding of how this platform works I guarantee you have the basic capacity to successfully install Linux on an old computer.

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[-] MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml 5 points 6 days ago

But more intuitive than constantly working against Windows.

[-] barnaclebutt@lemmy.world 19 points 6 days ago

LINUX. Jesus it's fucking Linux.

[-] neon_nova@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 6 days ago

I use linux for everything except for one critical app that does not yet work on linux outside of a virtual machine. But, my computer is not powerful enough to run it in a virtual machine.

There are also no alternatives to it either. So, I have a second computer to use windows for just that, but the day it works on linux is the day I say bye to windows forever.

[-] utopiah@lemmy.world 4 points 6 days ago

There are also no alternatives to it either

Just curious, what is it?

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[-] MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml 21 points 6 days ago

How to setup your desktop as a desktop: only 7 steps!

[-] kemsat@lemmy.world 14 points 6 days ago

As a civilization, we need to accept that we can no longer continue to depend on Microsoft Windows to use our computers. Hopefully the transition will go through without Microsoft having the opportunity to try to save themselves.

[-] tvbusy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 6 days ago

Bought an old laptop for my daughter's first computer. She's going to just learn typing and some simple stuff. Not able to install Windows with a local account. Fedora KDE it is then.

[-] Commander_Keen@reddthat.com 8 points 6 days ago

Let’s just not install windows?

[-] Franklin@lemmy.ca 10 points 6 days ago

fun fact Rufus already has all of this automated and even has steps to have the local account of your choice already as part of the image

[-] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 6 points 6 days ago

Who actually uses Microsoft Windows?

[-] TheGreyGhost@lemmy.ml 5 points 6 days ago

Mostly companies who have platform specific software that would cost to much to replace or take to long to replace. There’s still companies that run ancient versions of OSs like Pre Mac OS X and Windows 95 because there’s simply no newer OS that can run a specific software besides that OS.

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[-] Cossty@lemmy.world 4 points 6 days ago

People who can't or don't want to use Linux should just use Windows LTSC or IOT. It's honestly the next best thing. I just set it up for my brother. When you open up the start menu on the fresh install and there is nothing there out of the box, it's such a nice feeling. No ads, no games, no onedrive, nothing. The only thing LTSC has is Microsoft Edge but even that one you can uninstall.

Licenses are expensive, but you can easily activate it with mas.

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[-] MehBlah@lemmy.world 5 points 6 days ago

Looks better than my solution which was to join the machine to a domain then add a local account after. I always add a local account of my machines then add them to a domain. Simple fact is they want to trap people in their walled garden and it isn't going that well for them.

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[-] MacStache@sopuli.xyz 5 points 6 days ago

I don't really get it why people jump through these major hoops just to get Windows working the way they want it to. Just ditch the problem.

[-] BradleyUffner@lemmy.world 6 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

I have software I need that doesn't run on Linux, and doesn't have a Linux equivalent.

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[-] the_q@lemm.ee 4 points 6 days ago

1 step guide: Linux

Yes yes I know it's not, but still easier and faster than setting up a new Windows install, getting drivers and installing updates.

[-] nexguy@lemmy.world 3 points 6 days ago

Question: what is the downside of making a throwaway ms account upon install and never touching that account again?

[-] squishy@lemmy.zip 10 points 6 days ago

The unacceptable thing for me is that it requires internet access to use the operating system. That seems completely unnecessary.

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