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[-] sun_is_ra@sh.itjust.works 154 points 1 month ago

Are they trying to kill windows on purpose?

[-] ThePowerOfGeek@lemmy.world 122 points 1 month ago

The sad thing is they know the large majority of users will comply. Most people put familiarity and convenience above their own privacy and general well-being.

[-] magic_smoke 64 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Once valve drops better nvidia support into the kernel, and steamos starts coming pre-loaded on laptops and pre-built desktops it's over for their consumer division.

[-] Toes@ani.social 60 points 1 month ago

There's nothing special about SteamOS. Linux has been available as an option from several manufacturers for years.

What we need to see is a major studio pushing for Linux like valve has been doing.

Imagine if call of duty or fortnite had a Linux promotion to have a penguin hat. That would help

[-] Cris_Color@lemmy.world 43 points 1 month ago

There kind of is though. I'm not here to argue it's enough to unseat windows but it is markedly different

From a technical standpoint it's just another linux distro with some nice tweaks for gaming but from a human perspective it has brand recognition, familiarity, a known company behind it. Those things do really matter for adoption. No idea if that'd be anywhere near enough, I'm not inclined to make predictions, but it does have explicit advantages over consumers hearing they can get a laptop with Ubuntu or fedora on it

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[-] magic_smoke 15 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

What we need to see is a major studio pushing for Linux like valve has been doing.

That's it. That's literally what makes it special. You, me, and half the fediverse probably aren't going to use steam os unless maybe we buy a steam deck.

The fact that there's a multi-billion dollar company throwing money at both it and proton is what makes steam os special. Its what's going to give Linux a unified brand name that every machine can put on their case badge.

Normal people and the companies that sell them computers need that unified brand name. Why on gods green earth, I don't fucking know, but I know that they do. Its how you get them to use shit.

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The fact that Facebook still exists is proof of this.

[-] dota__2@lemmy.world 20 points 1 month ago

companies do things like this when they feel they have the power in the business/customer relationship and there's no regulations to stop them.

[-] Irelephant@lemm.ee 15 points 1 month ago

I wouldn't say that, more just abusing a monopoly.

[-] IrateAnteater@sh.itjust.works 13 points 1 month ago

I don't know what is going on at Microsoft. I'm starting to think that they are trying to pivot to a completely different business model. In addition to this Windows 11 crap and XBox seemingly being given up on, they appear to be losing their embedded market as well. In the past, if you saw any screen in an industrial setting, there's a good chance that there was the embedded Windows version behind that screen. Lately, all the new products are moving over to Linux.

[-] ripcord@lemmy.world 17 points 1 month ago

They are, and have said they are.

Subscriptions are the wave of the future.

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[-] dinckelman@lemmy.world 147 points 1 month ago

I've used the unpatchable Win11 account loophole, that exploits a functionality of your pc, where you wipe your boot drive, and install NixOS on it

[-] Hominine@lemmy.world 16 points 1 month ago

That's a neat trick!

[-] waigl@lemmy.world 90 points 1 month ago

Why the fuck is a Microsoft account so important to Windows that running it without one is considered a "loophole"?

[-] IrateAnteater@sh.itjust.works 62 points 1 month ago

My guess is that's it's easier to neatly package your data up for when they go to sell it.

[-] Irelephant@lemm.ee 45 points 1 month ago

Because we need your data silly 😊

[-] kevincox@lemmy.ml 32 points 1 month ago

They want to make money off of services, every service they offer requires a Microsoft account to purchase and use. Everyone that they force to make an account during setup is one step closer to paying for a Microsoft service.

There are obviously tradeoffs (less sales of these versions of windows and some users pushed away from Windows altogether among others), but the motivation is clear.

[-] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 26 points 1 month ago

because microsoft is shifting focus from selling you a product, to selling you as a product

And they need a unique account to track every single click and thing you do on your PC, and the web, and everywhere else to facilitate doing that with greater control and ease.

Its literally what, and for the same reason, google has done for the past decade+

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[-] Cossty@lemmy.world 80 points 1 month ago
[-] seven_phone@lemmy.world 66 points 1 month ago

Describing the ability to make a local account as a loophole is letting a little too much real intention slip out.

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[-] grid11@lemy.nl 62 points 1 month ago
[-] walden@sub.wetshaving.social 23 points 1 month ago

I didn't know Gentoo was named after a penguin.

[-] ripcord@lemmy.world 18 points 1 month ago

Now I want a Chinstrap and a Southern Rockhopper Linux.

[-] walden@sub.wetshaving.social 13 points 1 month ago

Chinstrap Linux haha. It's like Fedora, but for a totally different demographic.

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[-] ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world 55 points 1 month ago

I really hope the whole shift away from American products will convince more software and game developers to provide native support for Linux. I am approaching the fence.

[-] Reygle@lemmy.world 54 points 1 month ago

Uh

Who's ready to talk Linux

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[-] r_deckard@lemmy.world 54 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

It's not a big deal. They're removing the bypassnro.cmd script, which is just this:


@echo off

reg add HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\OOBE /v BypassNRO /t REG_DWORD /d 1 /f

shutdown /r /t 0


You can still use shift-F10 at the same point, type those two lines (not the @ECHO OFF), and it will achieve the same result.

[-] tauren@lemm.ee 15 points 1 month ago

Their intention is clear. I wonder for how long this workaround is going to stay.

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[-] Floopquist@lemmy.org 43 points 1 month ago

Man, Microsoft advertising for Linux Mint YET AGAIN?! They are so gracious.

[-] Irelephant@lemm.ee 16 points 1 month ago

Why is everyone reccommending linux mint all of a sudden? What happened to ubuntu and fedora?

[-] PoolloverNathan@programming.dev 28 points 1 month ago

Ubuntu added telemetry and forced snaps

[-] DannyBoy@sh.itjust.works 17 points 1 month ago

And Ubuntu Pro popup ads. Linux Mint is, from a compatibility standpoint, Ubuntu without the crap.

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[-] Zink@programming.dev 22 points 1 month ago

Mint is ubuntu with the icky stuff removed and given an extra layer of polish. Still loving it here.

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[-] conorab@lemmy.conorab.com 39 points 1 month ago

This forced account shit is infuriating. I’d see students with computers that cannot get to government-provided education sites because they are forced to sign up with a Microsoft account to use their PC, which forced them to setup a child account because of their age and therefore be under a parent account, which means the child account can only use Edge and can only go to whitelisted websites, which blocks some government education sites unless the parent account allows it through which they can’t until the student goes home.

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[-] KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml 28 points 1 month ago

lol there's already a fix: run start ms-cxh:localonly from a CMD line in the installer

[-] j4yt33@feddit.org 26 points 1 month ago

I'm so glad I finally ditched that shit for good

[-] jadelord@discuss.tchncs.de 25 points 1 month ago

Windows 11 is enshittfying a feature that let you skip making a Microsoft account

There, FTFY.

[-] secret300@lemmy.sdf.org 23 points 1 month ago

Will people just stop using windows already. I get for work but if you just waiting on that one game then fuck off it's not worth it. I gave up some of my favorite games because it wasn't worth using Windows

[-] Zanathos@lemmy.world 19 points 1 month ago

Proton is amazing though. I got Lego LotR working on my steam deck by installing some DirectX 9 dependency to fix a graphical glitch with the game. Runs like a dream.

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[-] Geodad@lemm.ee 14 points 1 month ago

I just deleted my old Mocrosoft account. Forgot I had it until recently.

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[-] MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml 13 points 1 month ago

The company is cracking down on the ability to install Windows 11 on older PCs that don’t support TPM 2.0

But still runs fine in a VM (where it belongs to) on Linux on a system without TPM, right?

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[-] mazzilius_marsti@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago

LibreOffice better step up their games and make their office suites better. Outside of very niche and specialized applications like CAD or video editor, the average Joe will just need a good office suite to do stuff.

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[-] richieadler@lemmy.myserv.one 12 points 1 month ago

They give me more and more reasons to stay on W10 until I give up games and move to Linux permanently.

I'll miss my TCMD scripting, though. But besides that and gaming, most of what I do nowadays is cross-platform.

[-] mat@linux.community 15 points 1 month ago

What games keep you on Windows? Besides a few anticheat-enabled ones which choose not to support it, basically everything works fine. I game (and work in gamedev!) 100% on Linux.

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[-] Casteyes@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago

Funny how corporations think taking away consumers freedom and privacy is a good idea.

Have fun losing customers.

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[-] Puzzlehead@reddthat.com 11 points 1 month ago

We no longer own our products. We just pay to use it until they decide you can no longer use their service. What happens if they mysteriously shut down your account without warning?

That is what happened to a guy and he had to get court involved and then he found out his account was flagged for CP by their algorithm because he had a video of his 19 year old ex. False bans do happen. I couldn't find that story again sadly to share.

Also, make sure you always have back up turned off or have one drive not installed on your phone. If you're a parent, be careful what photos you take of your children because if those get backed up to cloud, their AI will kill your account because it can't tell between CP and normal family photos.

I actually want to own our products than make accounts to use.

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