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US stocks were sharply lower Friday as investors digested souring consumer sentiment and inflation data that showed an uptick in one of the Federal Reserve’s key gauges, underscoring the delicate state of the economy as businesses brace for President Donald Trump’s tariffs.

The Dow tumbled 750 points, or 1.77%, on Friday. The broader S&P 500 fell 2.1% and the Nasdaq Composite slid 2.8%.

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Wall Street was also grappling with Trump’s announcement on Wednesday of 25% tariffs on all cars shipped into the US, set to go into effect April 3. Trump also announced tariffs on car parts like engines and transmissions, set to take effect “no later than May 3,” according to the proclamation he signed.

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[-] KulunkelBoom@lemm.ee 42 points 6 days ago
[-] pleasegoaway@lemm.ee 30 points 6 days ago

The trump regime was designed to TANK the US economy so that stocks, businesses, and industries can be bought by billionaires at rock bottom prices.

All is going according to plan.

[-] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 6 points 5 days ago

I have an acquaintance that works for an old money, very wealthy family from oil money. The kind that influences regional as well as national politics. He worked for them during the last major recession in the late ‘00s. He basically said that his employer and all their buddies were running all over the world buying everything they could “like it is a fire sale” during the recession.

So yeah. This is how we get more billionaires, more oligarchs, and more meta national corpo monopolies where one company controls multiple brand names.

[-] werefreeatlast@lemmy.world 3 points 5 days ago

The best we can do is to quit as soon as your company gets purchased. What they are after is the people. Specially the key role people.

Don't document your process. Fix things without opening change requests. That way if you assemble things the quality will drop when you leave.

If you're in a key role, just quit. Don't go fucking around by deleting data. It's better to make up data instead that seems real but is not. Never write an email that is personal or has anger in it because, even if you don't send it, it gets saved. Same for your teams messages. You want to stay in the industry, but just quit if your company gets taken over by a billionaire.

[-] 10001110101@lemm.ee 4 points 6 days ago

Yeah, almost seems like it. I am convinced they are at least doing something like the "Mar-a-Lago Accord" to devalue the dollar, unseat the USD as the global reserve currency, inflate debt away, and make wages low enough and people desperate enough so more manufacturing is viable in the US again.

[-] TechAnon@lemm.ee 4 points 6 days ago

Can you define "rock bottom prices"? -- asking for a friend.

[-] pjwestin@lemmy.world 38 points 6 days ago

I find it deeply funny that fascism is completely compatible with capitalism (it's arguably its end-state), but they're still tanking the economy because Trump doesn't understand tariffs.

[-] CheeseNoodle@lemmy.world 29 points 6 days ago

Fascism ultimately tanks any system because it prices loyalty above all else and you inevitably end up without any compitent people in charge.

[-] pjwestin@lemmy.world 8 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Yeah, for sure, fascist regimes have a pretty short shelf-life in general because of cronyism and incompetence. I'm just saying there's nothing inherent to fascism that should be tanking the economy right now in the way, say, a communist revolution would by causing capital flight. If he wasn't pushing the worst, most unnecessary trade war in history, Trump could have a strong economy right now.

[-] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 19 points 6 days ago

I told my partner that we needed to stop excessive spending like going out to eat while the economy is so uncertain. She was ok with that. I'm not feeling great about our (collective) future. Sigh.

[-] ThomasCrappersGhost@feddit.uk 4 points 5 days ago

I hate that going for a meal out is considered excessive, from someone who is in the same boat as you.

[-] werefreeatlast@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago

And all restaurant owners are probably bracing for this to hit hard.

[-] MellowYellow13@lemmy.world 7 points 5 days ago

Thanks Trump

[-] KulunkelBoom@lemm.ee 13 points 6 days ago

Thanks trump. (if he can take credit for Biden's economy then he can take credit for his ineptitude too)

[-] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 5 days ago

If he can take credit for the past admin, he can take credit for his failures.

He won't, Trump can do no wrong according to himself and his cult followers. Anything good is all him, anything bad is a nebulous thing he had no part of.

[-] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 18 points 6 days ago

Honestly, kinda surprised it is only dropping this much. Would have though the collapse of the free world as we know it to have more of an impact.

[-] aeshna_cyanea@lemm.ee 6 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

(extremely reddit voice) priced in

[-] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 3 points 6 days ago

Damn it, who is buying the dip?

[-] JackbyDev@programming.dev 1 points 5 days ago

I mean, technically most people with 401ks are buying the dip.

[-] hark@lemmy.world 10 points 6 days ago

Wake me up when it's worse than 2022.

[-] Bakkoda@sh.itjust.works 2 points 5 days ago

Hope you like short naps

[-] OhVenus_Baby@lemmy.ml 7 points 5 days ago

Its almost like it can't forever be going up..

[-] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 7 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Almost like someone actively causing instability with bad economic policy and stirring global political instability would cause it to go down.

[-] Bakkoda@sh.itjust.works 5 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Except if you follow very basic economic policy and buy low/sell high a recession/major correction is just a buying opportunity. Think new game+ mode, now you extra stonks on your new playthrough.

Clarification: I'm talking about banks causing collapses as a way to consolidate. Not wallstreetbets shit.

[-] MIDItheKID@lemmy.world 3 points 5 days ago

But... But line. Line go up.

Youre telling me that exploiting the workers, making life horrible and expensive for the middle and lower class while giving tax breaks to the ultra wealthy makes the line not go up?

B... But line. Line go up!

[-] OhVenus_Baby@lemmy.ml 3 points 5 days ago

With all this hysteria going around it seems like the general population has forgotten how we live in the real world and where we came from, how we got here.

[-] borokov@lemmy.world 11 points 6 days ago

Meanwhile, the CAC40...

[-] Sixtyforce@sh.itjust.works 11 points 6 days ago

It's hard to lie about stock prices, let's watch them continue to shout their propaganda as the riots start.

[-] Blum0108@lemmy.world 33 points 6 days ago
  1. They inherited Biden's economy

  2. trump can't affect anything so soon

  3. It would be worse under Kamala

  4. We'll just have to suffer a little pain while trump fixes things

Take your pick of weak excuse

[-] Fedizen@lemmy.world 15 points 6 days ago

At this point the people that still like trump would happily live in a cardboard box as long as people they didn't like were denied a cardboard box

[-] groolthedemon@lemmy.world 7 points 6 days ago

His supporters would clap and cheer in the dark while he unscrews the last lightbulb.

[-] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

There has been a lot of "lying" about stock princes over the last decade but quite indirectly so: for example the ultra low interest rates have allowed many companies to get loans merely to buy their own stocks, which pushes stock prices up whilst loading the company with more debt (and bad debt rather than good debt: not having been taken for investing in productive and marketing activities of the company, those loans will not lead to the increase in profitability needed to pay the debt back plus interest).

Similarly, because the wealth has been concentrating in fewer and fewer hands there has been a lot more money floating around looking for investments (every extra dollar in the hands of a poor or working class person is one extra dollar that goes into consumption, every extra dollar in the hands of a rich person is one extra dollar that's looking for investment), which has pumped up bubbles from realestate to crypto, and that includes stocks.

It's not "lying" in the sense that one person moved the markets by telling porkies, it's more of a mix of economic manipulation and an emergent system (in the Mathematical sense) transforming the actions of the various agents under these manipulated financial conditions into a big picture of stocks (and other "investment" class assets) going up in price even though no real increase in their underlying value has happened (the companies aren't really profiting so much more that it justifies their market cap increases, the houses whose prices are going up have no actual improvements to justify the higher prices - the value going up is basically justified by the value going up).

[-] PattyMcB@lemmy.world 10 points 6 days ago

OMG... Trump was lying about fixing the economy? Please say it isn't so!

[-] b3an@lemmy.world 4 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Why is Captain Kirk chilling at the Dow?

[-] Formfiller@lemmy.world 4 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Wow who would have thought a demented orange traitor shitstain and his micropenis techbro side kick were absolutely imbeciles …..if only there had been signs

[-] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 6 days ago

You're missing the part where they're completely awesome and no one could have predicted this. /s

[-] Bzdalderon@lemmy.ca 1 points 5 days ago

This is also called a buy phase

Buy low, sell high

Trumps policies are expected to pass costs on to consumers but have the benefit of maintaining production and development internally which should long term keep more money inside the USA, hardening supply lines against foreign influence. Given that China is openly campaigning for war on Taiwan by 2027 latest, and they're responsible for close to 80% of critical imports to US minerals, this puts the US in a predicament which Trump (probably not on purpose tbh, I won't give him the credit) is preparing for.

Tariffs on raw metals and minerals have proven effective since his first term with significant improvements in domestic refinement.

-"Tardif pass-through and implications for domestic markets: Evidence from US steel imports" Ahmad et al. (2023).

This isn't shared by other aspects of the supply network though like finished products or more complicated manufacturing because market instability halts investment in those areas, so no development actually increases in the US and prices just increase. This is a fatal flaw in the tariff calculus that is hurting trade and the economy. Manufacturing takes years to develop and adapt, and no one will leap on that kind of investment without clear assurances.

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