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[-] cybermass@lemmy.ca 6 points 2 months ago

Anarchists are literally just end product capitalists.

If we had a democratic socialist society across the world, people would actually want society to continue existing.

But no, can't have that.

[-] hypna@lemmy.world 33 points 2 months ago

Sometimes I think the last great problem to solve in anarchist theory is how people get this confused about what anarchism is.

[-] Revan343@lemmy.ca 15 points 2 months ago

Media deliberately conflating 'anarchy' with 'chaos'

[-] hypna@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago

Maybe that's all it is.

[-] metaStatic@kbin.earth 3 points 2 months ago

if you had never experienced direct democracy how else would you describe it?

[-] AnarchistArtificer@slrpnk.net 4 points 2 months ago

TBF, if you put 4 different anarchists in a room to debate a topic, you'd end up with 7 different opinions; I think that the way that anarchism functions means that we end up with an especially diverse mixture of perspectives and viewpoints, so I don't think people will ever agree on what anarchism actually is (which I find delightful, in many respects)

This is perhaps a facetious reply to your comment though, given that I realise that the confusion you speak of is very different to the discourse I'm talking about. I agree with your point and I think it's a very funny joke.

A strategy that I sometimes use to avoid the misconceptions is to just avoid saying the big scary A-word, because I've had some bizarre conversations where people are super receptive towards anarchist ideas, but it's like something shuts off in their brain when someone says "anarchist". I don't know whether this strategy feels inappropriately deceptive ¯_ (ツ)_/¯ (I picked my current username as an experiment in "wearing my ideology on my sleeve", to see how the contrast to the above strategy felt. )

[-] kayzeekayzee 24 points 2 months ago

"anarchic" = "an" (no) + "archic" (ruler)

Anarchists want to remove hirearchy and rulers, not society as a whole. There are a number of examples throughout history of successful anarchistic societies.

[-] BlackRoseAmongThorns@slrpnk.net 16 points 2 months ago

Ah yes, anarchists being capitalists, doing capitalist things like trying to build communalistic spaces, and not believing in money, or spreading union agitprop... Truly friends of the capitalist class.

[-] samus12345@lemm.ee 14 points 2 months ago

I took it as meaning capitalism creates anarchists because it's so awful.

[-] Agosagror@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 2 months ago

If thats true then that might actually be the most poorly worded take I've seen on Lemmy to date.

[-] samus12345@lemm.ee 7 points 2 months ago

True. No other interpretation makes sense to me, though.

[-] BlackRoseAmongThorns@slrpnk.net 4 points 2 months ago

I have to agree with the other person, it's an awful choice of words, as an anarchist myself

[-] ArsonButCute@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 2 months ago

As an anticapitalist anarchist:

You need to learn what Anarchy is.

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