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[-] hikaru755@lemmy.world 133 points 1 year ago

This has absolutely nothing to do with enshittification. Bluesky doesn't need that redirect to know what you're clicking on. You're already on their platform, they can already track every single click that you do while on Bluesky including navigating to outbound links. I'm a bit shocked that nobody here is calling that out to be honest

[-] KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com 23 points 1 year ago

FUD is the name of the rage bait game.

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[-] The_Decryptor@aussie.zone 98 points 1 year ago

They already know your IP address, you're using their website/app.

It's either to track outbound clicks (And potentially block them if they're harmful, YouTube and Steam do that), or a much more unlikely option is to hide the referrer from the target site (Since browsers have better ways to handle that now, but old ones don't)

[-] 4am@lemm.ee 18 points 1 year ago

Wouldn’t it be easier to just scan the original post for harmful links?

[-] The_Decryptor@aussie.zone 35 points 1 year ago

Then you have to scan every single existing known post every time a new link is blocked, if you redirect it through a bouncer it's a single endpoint to block any link, regardless of the source of the post (since bluesky is in theory decentralized)

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[-] epyon22@programming.dev 16 points 1 year ago

Websites can change

[-] jmcs@discuss.tchncs.de 11 points 1 year ago

So either they are solving problems the most common browsers are solving or they are tracking clicks to sell user data. Somehow the latter sounds more likely, especially since they have no reliable source of income yet.

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[-] Nemo@slrpnk.net 51 points 1 year ago

Never follow social media to a second location.

[-] rekabis@programming.dev 47 points 1 year ago

There is a legitimate reason for this: it’s the only way to provide content creators with evidence of how many people actually clicked on the link.

The downside is that there is so many ways that a feature like this can be abused by BlueSky in ways that can hurt users.

[-] flamingos@feddit.uk 18 points 1 year ago

Yeah, it's literally the second step of enshittification, where platforms stop allocating value to users and start allocating them to publishers. This is still Bluesky expanding out its surveillance apparatus, something it will have every incentive to abuse later on like other platforms before it.

[-] PotatoesFall@discuss.tchncs.de 14 points 1 year ago

The content creators themselves could use a link that goes through a counter if they really need it, no?

[-] dev_null@lemmy.ml 14 points 1 year ago

No, it's not the only way. You could track the click with JavaScript.

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[-] Angry_Autist@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

There is no way it isn't already being abused, there are zero guard rails on it

Fucking typical, a move that hurts the platform long-term is being cheered for by ignorant idealists while the makers of its demise are already salivating and cartoonishly rubbing their hands in glee

[-] ThomasCrappersGhost@feddit.uk 13 points 1 year ago

Why do content creators need to see how many clicks they get?

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[-] circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.org 44 points 1 year ago

Anything under direct corporate control will enshittify. It has nothing to do with mission, values, direction, purpose, or any other bullshit in the charter of a service. If it is controlled by an entity with shareholders turning a profit, it will enshittify, because those shareholders will demand ever increasing profit for their investments. It is a one-way process.

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[-] cronenthal@discuss.tchncs.de 39 points 1 year ago

Oh, there is so much more you can do with this "functionality". Welp, anyone who trusts bluesky even an inch better prepare to be deeply disappointed.

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[-] Jhex@lemmy.world 39 points 1 year ago

As predicted.... And people piled on me here when I question why they were falling head over heels over bluesky when it was yet another techo bro platform

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[-] TCGM@lemmy.world 37 points 1 year ago

This is not enshittification. Many other knowledgeable users who actually know what they're talking about have explained why.

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[-] Absaroka@lemmy.world 30 points 1 year ago

Anybody know what the real reason for this is?

All websites can track how often a link is clicked, and what the link is, and who clicked it (especially if you have an account).

[-] Sekoia 24 points 1 year ago

It's to get around a bug on some platforms where the Referer header isn't set properly. Basically when you click the link in the app (maybe other platforms too idk), it can't set the Referer, so website statistics can't know what came from bsky. This was in their changelog. It used to already work correctly on desktop, though.

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[-] 0x01@lemmy.ml 19 points 1 year ago

Probably so bluesky can get affiliate money, either changing affiliate links with their own a'la honey or just tracking them to report to advertisers how much traffic is going through their platform to garner deals.

In other words, money

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[-] Mohamed@lemmy.ca 29 points 1 year ago

Even if it didn't go to bluesky.app first before the actual link, clicks on it can still be made to be tracked. It's trivial to do it much more discreetly.

It is definitely tracked, but I would guess that turning it into a bluesky link has other uses, not all nefarious, such as: link previews, caching, dealing with dead links.

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[-] drdiddlybadger@pawb.social 29 points 1 year ago

How is this enshittification? As far as an end user is aware nothing has changed right?

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[-] PentastarM@midwest.social 27 points 1 year ago

I use an app called URLcheck that I've installed via F-Droid. Although it doesn't appear to give me the ability to skip the bluesky redirect action but at least I know it's there I guess.

[-] flamingos@feddit.uk 42 points 1 year ago

The best part is that if you inspect elements, it still shows as the original link. They only generate the go link after you clicked.

[-] grrgyle@slrpnk.net 23 points 1 year ago

That is so... gross!!! Ugh. Yuck!

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[-] HjST@programming.dev 11 points 1 year ago

You can use pattern checker to automatically replace the URL with the original one.

"bsky": {
    "regex": "https?:\/\/go.bsky.app\/redirect\\?u=(https?.*?)",
    "replacement": "$1",
    "decode": "true",
    "enabled": "true",
    "automatic": "true"
  }

(it's possible they will add more parameters in future, in which case you may want to restrict the selection to not be essentially anything after u=)

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[-] RedSnt@feddit.dk 24 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Eh. Doesn't seem too bad, but then again, I haven't made an account there because of it not really being decentralized enough for my taste.
Seems kinda dumb to go from one centralized service like X to another. Bluesky's claims of being decentralized are highly exaggerated.

[-] airportline@lemm.ee 22 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)
[-] ThomasCrappersGhost@feddit.uk 20 points 1 year ago

Bluesky has been doing enshitification since it didn’t mind having that transphobic man on their platform, as far as I’m concerned.

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[-] halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago

I mean, it was made by former Twitter execs... and that was marketed as an "advantage" over alternatives like Mastodon. This isn't surprising at all unless you literally don't pay any attention to anything.

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[-] Blaze@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 1 year ago
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[-] Irelephant@lemm.ee 17 points 1 year ago

This is for publishers to track outgoing links.

[-] nutsack@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 1 year ago

fuck it's almost like the world runs on capitalism

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[-] FourWaveforms@lemm.ee 14 points 1 year ago

They never needed to redirect to do that in the first place. It's probably just done for convenience. Websites quietly tracking outgoing links has been technically possible since the '90s.

[-] aeshna_cyanea@lemm.ee 13 points 1 year ago

For reference you can disable this with unlock origin https://github.com/uBlockOrigin/uAssets/pull/27500

[-] TripleIris@lemmy.wtf 12 points 1 year ago

You mean the company that was created by the worst of pre-Musk Twitter leadership, that claims to be open source and federated but actually isn't, that uses AI to moderate itself, and that has a policy that lets AI scrapers use your posts is actually bad? I'm shocked. Shocked!

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[-] trotfox@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

Bluesky never felt quite right.

Wolves in sheep's clothing.

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