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I absolutely love wiki walking through random obscure fan wikis, but I hate how most are on Fandom.

I think a federated wiki solution makes sense. I could see it as an evolution of the interwiki concept.

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[-] Blaze@lemmy.dbzer0.com 72 points 4 months ago
[-] MxRemy@piefed.social 12 points 4 months ago

It wouod be amazing to see Ibis take off and pick up more developers

[-] sentient_loom@sh.itjust.works 10 points 4 months ago

This is the answer.

[-] ipkpjersi@lemmy.ml 6 points 4 months ago

Seems like there is a federated solution for everything lol

There's also a list of ActivityPub software on Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ActivityPub#Software_using_ActivityPub

[-] lgsp@feddit.it 4 points 4 months ago

Nah... Missing IMHO:

  • Strava like
  • IMDB like
  • stackoverflow like
  • google maps review like
[-] poesty@piefed.social 3 points 4 months ago

Strava like: FitTrackee and Endurain are planning to implement ActivityPub so yah there's gonna to be one IMDB like: NeoDB and LibRate Not sure about the rest

[-] lgsp@feddit.it 1 points 4 months ago

thank you! I will keep an eye on those

[-] Emperor@feddit.uk 1 points 4 months ago

!neodb@lemmy.zip

[-] naught101@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago

Also:

  • gift economy/trading platform (e.g. like freecycle)
  • buying/selling (e.g. like ebay)
  • local community/bioregionalism networks (e.g. what nextdoor should be)

These seem kind of ideal for a federated network, IMO.

I actually think Lemmy would be a pretty decent format for something stackoverflow like - just maybe needs to UI tweaks to minimise the visual space that replies take up, plus maybe answered post flair

[-] mapto@feddit.bg 4 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)
[-] naught101@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

Thanks, I saw that flohmakrt link in another comment too. Excellent!

Does that yrpri site work well?

[-] mapto@feddit.bg 2 points 4 months ago

It's been around for many years now and famously was used in the consultations for the constitution of Iceland. We also used it in Bulgaria back in 2013 and had a community of more than 3000 users, but it lost traction due to being ignored by politicians and controversial debates.

You can see more recent activity on https://www.citizens.is/ , particularly the impact and news sections.

[-] naught101@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

I wonder if they would be interested in implementing ActivityPub?

[-] mapto@feddit.bg 2 points 4 months ago

https://github.com/CitizensFoundation/your-priorities-app/issues/161

It's not a straightforward task. And it's controversial is you want to avoid multiple registrations.

[-] Binzy_Boi@feddit.online 10 points 4 months ago

It's not federated by any means, but if you want to replace FANDOM wikis with other equivalents, Indie Wiki Buddy is a great extension to have on hand.

https://getindie.wiki/

There's options to remove FANDOM from search results in favour of other options, and they also allow you to redirect to the Breezewiki frontend for FANDOM to get rid of all those shitty ads and UI, which is legal considering the contents of FANDOM pages are still under the Commons.

[-] caos@feddit.org 9 points 4 months ago

Hubzilla (macroblogging service in the Fediverse) can also be used to create and collaborate on wikis.

I can only find a German-language manual for this right away: https://help.hubzilla.hu/benutzerhandbuch/wikis.html

[-] PastelKeystone@lemmy.world 7 points 4 months ago
[-] Dark_Arc@social.packetloss.gg 6 points 4 months ago

Yeah, that could definitely be cool.

Cost would be a big factor ... Fandom got big by being free and eventually replaced (or heavily customized) mediawiki to the point it's unrecognizable.

[-] sonalder@lemmy.ml 8 points 4 months ago

Hosting a wiki isn't that expensive it's basically texts and some lightweight pictures. The whole english wikipedia is around 109GB of data.

[-] FundMECFSResearch 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

That doesn’t include images. Images are stored on wikimedia commons, which is about 600 TB.

[-] sonalder@lemmy.ml 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Well, with Kiwix I was able to download the whole english wikipedia with mid-res pictures on my 128GB USB Drive. I think the 600TB you're talking about includes videos and high-res pictures.

[-] Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago

It's not federated, but something like BookStack could be an option for self-hosted collaboration.

[-] early_riser@lemmy.radio 7 points 4 months ago

Easy hosting isn't quite the issue. Dokuwiki is trivial to self host. What I'd like something that's a happy medium between requiring account creation to edit pages and letting literally every rando with an IP address go to town.

[-] GroupNebula563@lemmy.world 7 points 4 months ago

I wonder if it could be done with a MediaWiki plugin, given how extensible MW and its plugin system is

[-] early_riser@lemmy.radio 2 points 4 months ago

I wouldn't doubt it, though MW seems hard to manage.

[-] GroupNebula563@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

It's not that bad once you get the hang of it, especially using a wiki farm like http://www.miraheze.org/

[-] sonalder@lemmy.ml 2 points 4 months ago

Or maybe Miraheze but it doesn't sem federated either

[-] EarlGrey@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 4 months ago

What benefit would federating it bring?

The ability to self-host your own FOSS wiki already exists and has for over two decades. It's called MediaWiki.

You could have federated accounts I guess but do editors on the Doctor Who wiki really need the ability to see posts on Mastadon or edit pages on the That 70's Wiki?

[-] Mubelotix@jlai.lu 2 points 4 months ago

Discovery. The current state of google dooms such small wikis. They will have zero traffic. Google has been overtaken by AI slop, so if we want to be relevant, we have no choice but to federate

[-] early_riser@lemmy.radio 1 points 4 months ago

In addition to discoverability, I'd say it provides a happy medium between letting every rando with an IP address edit a page and requiring account creation. Part of the point of the fediverse is to have (almost) everything in one place under a single account while still keeping things decentralized.

[-] EarlGrey@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 4 months ago

Can you elaborate on "discoverability"? Finding individual subject wikis has never been a particular problem for me. Even ones that don't use Fandom, provided they are at least active. Just googling " wikia" (I know. I can't let it go) always gets me what I need.

Can't say I see an advantage to universal accounts (I see more disadvantages), but if that's the big selling point and people really want it. I'm not opposed to having it, i've just always treated it as a mild novelty I never use.

As for decentralization, it has already been solved by MediaWiki. Which is GPL and (can be) self-hosted.

[-] early_riser@lemmy.radio 1 points 4 months ago

On Lemmy you can see (and search) a list of all the activity from every instance federated to your home instance. Looking at Ibis, which a few posters have mentioned on this thread, it has a discover page with a list of federated instances and articles on those instances. The current format is hardly scalable, but it's a start.

But, as I said before, the issue is less about discoverability and more about editing. Just like I can post in this thread even though I'm on a different instance, you can edit an article on one instance even though you're on another. The alternative as used by Wikipedia, is to allow anyone, account or not, to edit. Requiring someone to have an account on a federated instance would mitigate a fair amount of spam and ease moderation.

[-] EarlGrey@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 4 months ago

Requiring someone to have an account on a federated instance would mitigate a fair amount of spam and ease moderation.

What would that solve that mandating accounts for a standard wiki wouldn't?

[-] HubertManne@piefed.social 3 points 4 months ago

This is another example of the type of thing it would be great for conventions and clubs and such to host.

[-] solrize@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

I used gitit for a while. It's git backed and you can propagate it around that way.

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