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[-] heavyboots@lemmy.ml 182 points 1 month ago

I feel like unless you bought an Incel Camino or a brand new Tesla like in the last year, you really shouldn't be on the receiving end of quite so much hate, TBH. They were the car that finally got EVs off the ground as an acceptable alternative, so it's a shame early adopters are possibly being lumped in with MAGA truck owners.

[-] real_squids@sopuli.xyz 68 points 1 month ago

Leaf was the first "off the ground". Tesla were the first to show that production EVs weren't limited to boring econoboxes.

Anyway, you can filter out early adopters because they didn't have factory anti-chrome, so if you see a shiny trim around the windows - it's probably got a pre-public meltdown era owner.

The leaf did such a disservice to EVs that the world would probably have been better off without it. It was ugly, it was slow, it had no range, it had no battery cooling so degradation was awful, and charging was slow to boot.

[-] real_squids@sopuli.xyz 26 points 1 month ago

We wouldn't be here without it though. It did a decent job popularizing EVs, much better than i-Miev for example.

Would we though? The model S was only ~2 years away and that was the first EV people took seriously.

The leaf was affordable, but depreciation hit so hard that buying one new was only for actually insane people. And the battery degradation was almost as bad as the price degradation so your meh range became even worse. In ideal conditions it was fine, but anything worse and it was not a good option.

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[-] Sir_Kevin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 38 points 1 month ago

The only reason EV's never got off the ground in the US is because the auto industry was shutting that shit down every step of the way. Iirc a few people even got disappeared. There are numerous documentaries out there.

I agree though, going after regular folks just because they bought a car isn't cool. People should stay focused on the actual fascis7s.

[-] teolan@lemmy.world 14 points 4 weeks ago

Car dealerships are fair game I don't care what happens to cars there. But an individual's car, I wouldn't go beyond leaving notes on the windshield, otherwise you're just making people angry for no good reason. Before 2020 a lot of people may have bought a Tesla and while Musk was always fishy, at the time it wasn't any worse than most other car companies. And not everyone can "just sell" their cars. Cybertrucks though... These are actively dangerous and disabling them is a matter of public safety 😝

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[-] Rinna@lemm.ee 25 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Tbh there was also a time where I was under the assumption that all the big car manufacturing CEOs are probably not much better, Elon was just stupid enough to be open about it. For that I'm willing to give the benefit of doubt unless they recently got a Tesla brand new or have the PS1 graphics car.

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[-] Enkers@sh.itjust.works 16 points 1 month ago

I'm kinda conflicted about this. On the one hand, selling a car takes time and energy, and might not necessarily be feasible to do in just a few months, especially since the market for em is going to SUCK. On the other hand, if you continue to drive a car from a company owned by a literal Nazi once you know, then... well I don't feel too bad for you.

[-] doughless@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago

I switched to EVs in 2014, and went fully electric in 2018. My problem is that there still isn't a good alternative I can use for long distance trips for my family of 7. I'd love to switch to something like the Kia EV9, but I almost have my current car paid off, and can't afford another $80k car. I'm conflicted, because I don't want to switch back to a gas car, and I believe my current power company is on track to be 50% sustainable/renewable in 5-10 years. I feel like it could take me years as opposed to months to find a replacement EV that works for me.

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[-] xye@lemm.ee 65 points 1 month ago

People showing exactly where they draw the class line in here lmao

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[-] dryfter@lemm.ee 53 points 4 weeks ago

I'm indifferent on unsold Teslas being targeted, not like law exists in this country anymore. 🤷🏻‍♂️

I am absolutely 100% fucking appalled that people would be ok with doxing Tesla owners. These are real people with families who now have to fear for their safety because they thought it was cool technology when they bought the car. They also may not be able to easily afford to sell the car and buy a new or used one right away.

This does nothing good for anyone and hurts any resistance movement and sadly makes any resistance look like it lacks empathy for fellow human beings just like how what the right is doing shows they lack empathy.

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[-] buddascrayon@lemmy.world 50 points 4 weeks ago

I fundamentally disagree with doxing regular people. It's one thing if it's a public figure who is actively antagonizing people and using anonymity as a layer of protection against repercussions for their awful acts. But publishing the names and addresses of people who simply bought a car is not something we should be doing.

[-] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 24 points 4 weeks ago

Normally I'd agree.

But, I don't really care anymore.

One side has crossed all sorts of lines and now pushback is happening. Innocents always get caught up in situations like that.

They can sell their Teslas.

[-] NikkiDimes@lemmy.world 17 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

Isn't this just class infighting though, something completely against the benefit of the workers so the owners can continue to pick our pockets while we aren't looking?

[-] Goretantath@lemm.ee 12 points 4 weeks ago

Not when that part of the class is determined to ruin everyone else in the class. Nazi's aren't a part of the community.

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[-] NeonNight@lemm.ee 50 points 4 weeks ago

This is gonna be the thing that splits the left into “fuck yeah burn them” and “this is going too far” and then nothing will get done because we’ll focus too much on infighting. Can’t we all come together for something not stupid like destroying random people’s cars? If you’re going to take drastic measures, at least do something more productive. Throw a Molotov at your representatives’ cars instead. I have no tears for a burnt Tesla, but I wish people were using this energy to punish more deserving people in more meaningful ways. I’m still waiting on all those “Luigi copycats” people keep thinking are gonna appear

[-] CancerMancer@sh.itjust.works 10 points 4 weeks ago

I don't know why but some leftists will just find the dumbest fucking hills to die on, while completely ignoring real causes that actually move agendas forward.

Where is this energy in our unions and community groups? Where are these people in town halls and school board meetings? Where are the canvassers, the volunteers, the organizers?

Stop burning cars and start doing some of the damned work you cowards. Invest in your community and show people you're helpful and trustworthy instead of psychotic and destructive.

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[-] CosmicTurtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 42 points 1 month ago

Anyone got the address? I want to add it to my block list so I never get tempted to visit it.

[-] Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world 27 points 4 weeks ago

I went here https://dogeque.st/

Wherr there is the onion link dogeqstqzn2yjns2d6ccns7aa52tglno63ay2uv2orfvd7e23khcsxid.onion

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[-] gedaliyah@lemmy.world 37 points 1 month ago

The article doesn't say if it's targeting recent Tesla buyers or all owners.

Most current Tesla owners are not MAGAs and bought when they were marketed as a green vehicle.

[-] jmcs@discuss.tchncs.de 40 points 1 month ago

Musk has been acting nazi for quite some time.

[-] habitualTartare@lemmy.world 26 points 1 month ago

I think most people weren't fully aware until recently. You had to be active online or actually look for information to see it was more than just rich billionaire syndrome. We all live in bubbles and some people didn't get to hear about all the details with the 2019 pedo submarine incident Nowadays it would be very difficult to argue you didn't know but bought a Tesla because it's in your face.

For context, the model S was first sold in 2012, the model x in 2015, model 3 in 2017 and Y in 2020.

[-] jmcs@discuss.tchncs.de 28 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

So the model 3 was released when he was a Trump advisor, and the Y when he openly started spreading conspiracy theories non stop.

As for the "we didn't know" excuse it's as bullshit now has it was in 1945.

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[-] NotForYourStereo@lemmy.world 20 points 1 month ago

Cool story bro.

They can sell. They can trade. If they want to continue to own a Nazi car, they should be prepared for the consequences.

[-] CodeInvasion@sh.itjust.works 31 points 1 month ago
[-] NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip 17 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Google says you can sell it to a dealer or a used car service like carmax.

Is that going to be a bit of a hassle? Yeah. You know what else is going to be a bit of a hassle? Needing to pretend you aren't the gender you are because the government has painted a target on your head for choosing happiness. Or hoping nobody decides to take away the green card you worked your ass off to earn.

And is the value going to be dropping? Yeah. So get on that. Plenty of us are getting on finding ways to emigrate to countries that are less horrifically fucked and speedrunning their way to gilead and we know those slots are gonna dry up. And we are the privileged ones who even have a chance at doing this.

So "it is hard and I might lose a bit of money and it isn't my fault I couldn't be bothered to care until now" is a load of horse shit. And people wonder why I, and so many others, just laugh-cry whenever people talk about how this upcoming thing is totally going to flip the switch and get America to riot in the streets.

[-] Amanduh@lemm.ee 15 points 1 month ago

You should go outside and touch some grass friend

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[-] gedaliyah@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago

If you care about being consistent, you should probably smash your computer right now since you used Google, and Google CEOs are on the Trump train too.

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[-] NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip 18 points 1 month ago

All owners that they can find in various leaks/databases when I checked last week.

And musk has been a known evil dipshit since at least 2018 when he threw a hissy fit because the divers who rescued those kids didn't use musk branded products. He accused one of the divers of being a pedophile and actively devoted resources to "proving" this.

Let alone the countless stories of musk being a sex pest (remember having to buy a woman a pony because of whatever he did to her?)

So, at best, people can argue "I didn't care enough to do any research on what I bought and accidentally enabled a nazi.". At which point... I really don't give a fuck? Its the same as the people who couldn't be bothered to do any research and were surprised to hear that biden apparently wasn't on the ballot.

Their apathy is causing untold horror to at risk groups and the global economy. So they can go fuck themselves.

And, totally anecdotal: I have seen fucked up teslas in parking lots next to un-fucked ones that just had a "I bought this before he went insane" or "I hate him too" bumper sticker.

[-] gedaliyah@lemmy.world 20 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I can honestly say I don't research the political affiliations and actions of every CEO of every product I purchase.

[-] Amanduh@lemm.ee 13 points 1 month ago

You can't argue with these people, anyone who owns a tesla deserves to have it destroyed in their minds.

[-] NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip 10 points 1 month ago

Okay? Then don't expect me or anyone else to research the political affiliation of the owner of the tesla we see on the street to decide if they are a hateful pro-nazi prick or not?

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[-] Master@lemm.ee 30 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

People need perspective. The right is literally killing people with policy and detaining /disappearing citizens and destroying this country.

The left is burning cars in protest as it actually hurts the bottom line of a right leader. The other leftists are more apauled at the burning cars than at the stuff the right is doing that is much worse.

I've got news for you. This is going to get a lot worse than burnt cars if you ever want it to get better.

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[-] dhork@lemmy.world 27 points 1 month ago
[-] PieMePlenty@lemmy.world 23 points 4 weeks ago

This topic is unfortunately a black spot for the lemmy community. The hate boner for musk is so hard, that some people now fail to see that burning other people's cars is a problem. This kind of behavior can lead to some very bad consequences for people who's only crime was literally just buying a car. Kinda leaves a sour taste in my mouth.

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[-] sheetzoos@lemmy.world 21 points 4 weeks ago
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[-] FourWaveforms@lemm.ee 11 points 4 weeks ago

I went there and there are 5 people listed on it, like Elon and Kash Patel. If they have regular innocent people on the site it isn't showing them to me.

The vast majority of icons are just dealerships and superchargers.

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