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Tell your friend to log the IP address and report it to the authorities. They might need to turn over the entire modlog as well
This is likely in reference to the federation of such images posted elsewhere
Once again reaffirming why I refuse to host an instance. If I ever do, I’m not federating with any of you degenerates lol
I'm glad s/he was able to nuke the CSAM, even if other material was nuked with it. This crap is why I'm not hosting.
Please, call it CSAM (child sexual abuse material) and not CP (child pornography). The children in these photos/videos can't make pornography, they're sexually abused into making this material. CP insinuates that it's legitimate porn with children. CSAM, on the other hand, calls it what it is: sexual abuse of children.
That is needlessly pedantic. I have never heard of anyone using the word pornography to imply legality or moral acceptability. There is no such thing as "legitimate" CP, so there is no need to specify that it's not ok every time it is mentioned. No one in their right mind would presume he's some kind of CP supporting monster for failing to do so.
If we spent more time fixing things rather than naming them the world would be a better place.
No one in their right mind would assume that OP is. But the term was created to legitimize the material. So, while you're correct in that it is picky, it is also picky for a reason. Words are powerful. We should fight to not empower the legitimation of that term, among other things.
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a the rapist
I know that guy Tobias Fünke, althought he also is a analysist. He had some clever abreviation for that as well!
You referenced the Nazi term, "degenerate." Most of the time the people behind these attacks are very much aligned with Nazi ideology.
You are dumb.
It's never a drag queen, it's always an authority.
I don't think anyone ever brought up drag queens being behind it, OP's just using a word that has evolved in meaning. Much like how words like "stupid", "moron", etc went from official terms to refer to the mentally disabled, to slurs, to regular insults.
Nazis targeted people for sexual degeneracy before they went after the Jews. I was simply pointing out that most CP posting hackers are in fact, Nazis themselves and the title is using Nazi terminology to place blame on degenerates.
Well, it doesn't appear that you have learned the concept of language shift.
Degeneracy is always a Nazi ideology.
Please leave
I don't think paedophilla really has a place on the political spectrum. Stop labelling everything you're against as Nazi. It's not giving you the clarity to think about what you're fighting against.
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"Degenerate" is a word that has been used by many people in many contexts both before and after nazis were in power. It's the privative prefix "de-" + the latin root for creation/birth. Broadly speaking, it just means someone or something altered over time in a way that they no longer function properly. I see how it can be used in a way that aligns with nazi ideology, but that's not all it can be used for, or how it's used here.
Degeneracy is the core ideology behind every genocide. You accuse me of not understanding language shift. I say you don't understand the overton window.
This is like saying "Everyone who's ever called for genocide described their targets as bas people, therefore calling someone a bad person is genocidal ideology". The word "degenerate":
- Doesn't originate in genocidal ideology
- Doesn't have an intrinsically genocidal meaning
- Has continuously been used in non-political contexts.
If we keep banning every word of the dictionary that a nazi has ever used, fascists will end up the only ones able to talk...
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Degeneracy is always a Nazi ideology
Degeneracy is the core ideology behind every genocide.
Damn, I didn't think I'd learn something new today, but as it turns out, the Ottoman genocide of the Armenians, Assyrians and Greeks and the historical Chinese genocide of the Dzungar and the more recent genocide of the Uyghur people were because they were thought to be degenerates by the ruling National Socialist parties.
And here I was thinking 'Nazi' specifically referred to the Nazi Party members and modern white supremacists who support it, and not every nationalistic faction that has ever committed crimes against humanity.
You may not realise it, but you water down the word Nazi when you brandish it so casually. When you go around saying everything is Nazi ideology, people won't listen when something actually is.
You may not realize it, but when you split hairs you draw imaginary distinctions in what amounts to a hierarchy of worship to power that results in the violent enforcement of a culture from the top.
EVERY SINGLE HIERARCHY THAT USES VIOLENCE TO MAINTAIN ITSELF IS INHERENTLY FASCISTIC AND GENOCIDAL
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Guys, I think this is a troll account. Probably from the same bad actors that caused the original issue OP is complaining about.
Illegal images didn't work, so they took the "talk about Nazis" approach.
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I dont understand why this post is downvoted so much. It is calling the people who undermine Lemmy with CP Nazis (which they probably are) and points out some historical context of a specific term. I thought Lemmy would be up for that.
There's a strong right wing element in the Lemmy comment section, especially in places where abusive behavior can be disguised as comedy or virtue signaling. I don't care about the votes. If they hate me, I'm still in their heads.
No, there's a lot of people who don't want their language destroyed by people saying everything is a dog whistle.
Degenerate isn't a Nazi term. It's an insult, and insults are useful.
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I agree. This word is almost exclusively used by Nazis now. Let's not use that word to refer to people, no matter how bad the things they do.
It's common terminology deeply rooted in internet culture. People call themselves degenerates due to being unable to pursue social interactions in real life
This whole thread is pretty hilarious to me. When ever I hear the word "degenerate" I am generally expecting it to be during the intro to a Twisted Sister video.
edit: Also, we're talking about labeling CSAM spreaders as degenerates. Pick all of the bad words. I don't fucking care which ones, and I literally will not give a single, tiny little pea-sized shit about applying to those that traffic in CSAM.
Bless you ❤️
In the meanwhile, my YunoHost based instance that still hasn't managed to make Pict-RS work and therefore can't even store images even if it wanted to is doing juuuuust fine
Come to think of it, if you're the only user, it's kinda protecting you, isn't it? (hello fellow Yunohost user!)
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