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And I thought they were supposed to be shying away from fossil fuels.

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[-] miss_demeanour@lemmy.dbzer0.com 155 points 1 week ago

Tesla owners going from "Look at me!" to "Stop looking at me!" in the blink of an eye.

[-] toy_boat_toy_boat@lemmy.world 57 points 1 week ago

if i were looking to fuck with a Tesla, i'd pay close attention to any indication that the car was purchased recently. there are a LOT of people out there with a murder fetish, and i GUARANTEE that a lot of the nice new ones out there are really bait cars for gun owners that have been dying for a reason to shoot someone.

[-] Chozo@fedia.io 36 points 1 week ago

Yeah, probably a lot of Rittenhouse wannabes out there who wanna test the limits of castle doctrine.

[-] toy_boat_toy_boat@lemmy.world 38 points 1 week ago

yes, but this is a whole new monster..

  1. someone shoots a person who's defacing their Cybertruck
  2. they're convicted of murder because it's proven they bought the vehicle specifically to bait a victim
  3. Trump pardons them

i defy you to tell me that this isn't INEVITABLE.

[-] SmackemWittadic@lemmy.world 23 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Man I don't even think step two would happen before trump pardons them. The US is so fucked.

EDIT: As an example of what you said, a sociopath who has recently bought a Tesla is the fucking president of the US

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Murder ia basically always handled at the state level, so Trump would not have power to pardon that crime.

[-] Delphia@lemmy.world 22 points 1 week ago

He doesnt have the power to do lots of things he is doing.

Tell you what's more likely? DeSantis or one of those babyfuckers will do it.

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[-] drhodl@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

You! You're that pathetic Elmo dick rider from the other sub. He still isn't going to give you money, you germ.

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[-] rtxn@lemmy.world 67 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I know it's a joke, but many Tesla "solar" charging stations did actually use diesel generators a few years ago. Citation needed, but I can't be assed to look up the article.

[-] My_IFAKs___gone@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago

Not to mention the electrical energy stored in their cells has a fairly strong possibility of having been generated by a power plant consuming coal or petroleum.

[-] potate@lemmy.ca 25 points 1 week ago

I live in Alberta where most of our power comes from natural gas. I'm also an emissions and sustainability engineer. I did the math on environmental payback for an EV where I live and the EV is WILDLY better for the environment despite the power potentially coming from fossil fuels.

If you tell me roughly where you live I can calculate emissions per kilometre/mile including the energy that goes into manufacturing the vehicle.

There's absolutely jurisdictions where EVs don't make much difference - but most places they do.

(large scale power generation is pretty effecient and most jurisdictions have some renewables in the mix. A car's gas engine is much lower efficiency most places)

[-] My_IFAKs___gone@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

No disputes from me on your assessment. In principle I'm a big fan of EVs as a maturing technology and my only hangup with Tesla is its association with the person who is its CEO and the role he's chosen to play in US politics.

I'll gladly champion a vehicle that has incredible efficiency in converting its stored energy into mechanical work, especially when that stored energy came from a source that's 40-60% thermally efficient (for combustion-based processes) or derived from solar/wind/geothermal/hydro sources and can be partially recuperated via braking. It's too bad there aren't more EV options for people who want or need a 3/4 or 1-ton pickup (of which I happen to be a big fan for hauling/towing/plowing).

The one area where I'm still dubious of electric vehicles is in cold climates, although I think I've read heat pumps are being used with success. Otherwise, I'd propose a small auxiliary tank (preferably propane, if infrastructure permits) and a "Chinese diesel heater"-type unit be installed simply for cabin heating/defogging. Few energy conversions make me cringe more than that of high-exergy electricity (derived from non-renewables) directly into thermal energy, convenient as it may be for the end user.

Of course, it'd be nice if that combustive heat could be generated from sustainably-harvested hydrogen instead of an extracted hydrocarbon, but at that point, a fuel cell running a heat pump would be even better, with resistive waste heat from the FC an added bonus. But now it all feels a bit Rube Goldbergian...

Anyway, what's your take on EV use in climates with harsh winters (such as Canada/Alaska/Montana/Wyoming/Minnesota), especially when long range might be needed?

[-] potate@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 week ago

My partner and I backcountry ski, iceclimb etc. One of the reasons we went with the Ioniq 5 was that we can sleep in the back and use the heat pump to keep us warm.

We recently did a weeklong ski trip with it. We drove from from Golden, BC back to Calgary, AB (250km/150mi) in -16C (3F) and used 70% of a charge. One day on that trip, we were backcountry skiing in similar weather and the car sat outside in that weather for 8 hours. No loss of battery.

One of the unexpected features I really enjoy is that I never pump gas in the cold any more. I programmed my work schedule and the car pre-warms for my commute. I get home, plug the car in, and it's always ready to go.

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[-] LostXOR@fedia.io 17 points 1 week ago

Even when powered by fossil fuel power plants, electric vehicles are still usually better in terms of CO2 emissions. Power plants benefit from scale, so they're a lot more efficient than the tiny combustion engines in cars. Regenerative braking also saves a ton of energy when driving in the city.

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[-] JohnnyCanuck@lemmy.ca 16 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Yes the fossil fuel industry loved to point this one out. "Hahaha! We're so dirty even your clean tech can't be clean!"

[-] My_IFAKs___gone@lemmy.world 37 points 1 week ago

Teslas don't run on gasoline.

It runs on them.

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[-] Icalasari@fedia.io 23 points 1 week ago

I am so slow lately I saw this yesterday and only just now got the joke

[-] KeenFlame@feddit.nu 23 points 1 week ago

Let's focus on the nazi leader also not only his old projects

[-] OutlierBlue@lemmy.ca 31 points 1 week ago

His stock in Tesla is leveraged for a lot of other things he does. Lowering the stock value could cripple him financially.

[-] Jumpingspiderman@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago

Run Tesla stock prices into the ground. It's legal and, short of criminal violence, it would damage Elon worse than anything else. Without his money, Elmo Muskrat would just be the guy at the end of a dive bar you avoid because all they talk about is government conspiracies to cover up the fact that Lizard People Aliens are making human lizard people hybrids.

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[-] ChaoticEntropy@feddit.uk 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

He loves t' slur, what's unclear?

[-] KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml 15 points 1 week ago

Actually burning Teslas is bad for the environment.

[-] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 27 points 1 week ago

Drop in the bucket compared to what enabling this billionaire shit bag is going to do.

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[-] Rhaedas@fedia.io 7 points 1 week ago

You don't have to use fossil fuels. Just pointing out.

[-] ch00f@lemmy.world 18 points 1 week ago
[-] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago

This is America. We use corn based moonshine here.

[-] don@lemm.ee 11 points 1 week ago

Tito’s Vodka is distilled from corn.

[-] toy_boat_toy_boat@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

today i learned! the defining characteristic of vodka isn’t the raw ingredient but rather the distillation and filtration process that makes it a neutral spirit.

according to the U.S. TTB (Alcohol and Tobacco Tax and Trade Bureau) and the EU regulations, vodka is:

  • a neutral spirit distilled to at least 95% ABV (190 proof) and then diluted to no less than 37.5% ABV (EU) or 40% ABV (U.S.) before bottling
  • usually filtered, often through charcoal, to remove impurities and flavors
  • can be made from any fermentable sugar or starch—grains (wheat, rye, corn), potatoes, grapes, even milk whey
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[-] Mandelbrot@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago
[-] AnnaFrankfurter@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 week ago

Pro Tip, you don't need gasoline to burn Tesla just puncture there battery and it will go kaboom. /s

PS : THIS IS A JOKE DON'T EVER PUNCTURE A LITHIUM ION BATTERY IT IS VERY DANGEROUS

[-] CrazyLikeGollum@lemmy.world 3 points 4 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

PPS: ICE cars exploding in flames when shot is a Hollywood myth. Not so much for EVs.

[-] AnnaFrankfurter@lemmy.ml 2 points 4 days ago

I remember myth busters made a video about that, something like if gas tank was almost empty it atpeast got ignited otherwise nothing even when shot at gas tank.

[-] garretble@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

I thought this joke was going to be about all the cybertrucks needing towing because of yet another recall.

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