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[-] SanPe_@lemmy.world 9 points 6 days ago

You really think there will be elections in 2028...

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[-] kreskin@lemmy.world 9 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Its Lucy and the football for Charlie Brown, and we never learn.

[-] AarynBlack@lemm.ee 13 points 6 days ago

We need an actual third party.

[-] Skua@kbin.earth 5 points 6 days ago

For that you need a different electoral system. FPTP tends towards dominance by two parties

[-] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 5 points 5 days ago

We need an actual second party.

[-] AarynBlack@lemm.ee 4 points 6 days ago

We have the illusion of choice

[-] NimdaQA@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Agreed.

Even where there is no prospect of achieving their election the workers must put up their own candidates to preserve their independence, to gauge their own strength and to bring their revolutionary position and party standpoint to public attention. They must not be led astray by the empty phrases of the democrats, who will maintain that the workers’ candidates will split the democratic party and offer the forces of reaction the chance of victory. All such talk means, in the final analysis, that the proletariat is to be swindled. The progress which the proletarian party will make by operating independently in this way is infinitely more important than the disadvantages resulting from the presence of a few reactionaries in the representative body.

  • Karl Marx Address of the Central Committee to the Communist League London, March 1850
[-] watson387@sopuli.xyz 11 points 6 days ago

To be honest, if there's still an election in 2028 and Kamala Harris is the democrat candidate, I just won't vote anymore. I've voted regularly since I turned 18, but I can't vote Republican in good conscience and Democrats have abandoned the public. I don't even dislike Kamala Harris, she just has no chance of winning and the DNC seems incapable of learning from their mistakes.

[-] EmpireInDecay@lemmy.ml 13 points 6 days ago

I'm sure leftists and 3rd party voters will be blamed again when she loses, again.

Goddammitsomuch

[-] dhork@lemmy.world 13 points 6 days ago

Surely they must mean "Favorite candidate to run away from"....

(I'm kidding, though. I liked Harris as a candidate, but not having a real primary did the Democrats no favors. I blame Biden for not dealing realistically with his aging more than Harris.)

[-] ofcourse@lemmy.ml 12 points 6 days ago

The Democratic Party’s sole strategy looks like maximizing their big donor and independent votes. So they keep moving toward center-right.

  1. That strategy has failed 2/3 last times so may be try changing it Sherlock.
  2. The big donors don’t care about anything besides their own personal gain. The only difference is that “Democratic” big donors also pretend they care about the people. May be get on the ground and talk to your constituents instead.
  3. Even if you get the independent votes, your main base is completely alienated and does not trust you. So all you will get are the independent votes losing you the election.

This Democratic Party is like the monsters in Scooby Doo - the villain wearing the mask of the common person so they can get closer to you before stabbing in the back.

[-] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 8 points 6 days ago

I became an independent in part to get democrats to actually care about me. They don’t give a fuck what I think if I’m a member because they just assume I’m voting for them.

[-] WraithGear@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago

I’m not voting democrat again, so they can run her without me.

[-] ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works 4 points 5 days ago

Only if she plays the role of Taft in 1912.

[-] Yawweee877h444@lemmy.world 9 points 6 days ago

People need to upvote this for visibility, not disagreement. Seems like most of us agree, fuck no.

People need to see what BS is coming.

But then again I'm just assuming that's how lemmy works and if we downvote it will get lost.

Oh my fuck. God no. Stop. Please stop. What the actual fuck.

[-] FartsWithAnAccent@fedia.io 8 points 6 days ago

Are you fucking kidding me?

[-] podperson@lemm.ee 4 points 6 days ago

If the DNC is stuck on putting up an “establishment” candidate, why not Schiff? Seems like there’s no way they’re going to back AOC even though I’d guess she would get a lot of energy behind her.

[-] wildncrazyguy138@fedia.io 1 points 6 days ago

I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again here. It may be in our best interest to nominate a milquetoast candidate for the presidency in 2028 and for the republicans to win it.

That way when 2030 comes around, the house is packed with progressives, as the party in charge usually fares poorly in the midterms.

Why all of that? Well, because the congress in 2030 gets to draw the election district maps after the 2030 census, and for the next decade, progressives could then be represented accurately.

Now, a solid counter argument is what about the courts? And that’s valid, we likely can’t get both in the short to medium term. The best we could maybe hope for is a blue 2026 in the Senate, which could then accept judges that both the president and the senate agree upon. I think there is a case for some liberalesque populist judges to get through.

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