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[-] quack@lemmy.zip 14 points 2 hours ago

Turns out that people like playing games that respect their time and aren't a glorified second job. Who knew.

[-] Mic_Check_One_Two@reddthat.com 3 points 27 minutes ago* (last edited 16 minutes ago)

that respect their time

I know you’re not talking about old school RPGs. The older games tended to pad playtime by having insane difficulty levels or by requiring grinds. Hell, my favorite JRPG (edit: Legend of Legaia) is specifically more grindy in America, because the devs decided to slash the experience and gold drop rates by like 50% for the American release, and make all of the enemies hit much harder. (Interestingly, the original enemy stats are still present in the game code, and then the game runs some “x1.25” math when the battle starts, to bump all of their stats up to the values that actually get used in combat.) So you need to be a higher level to be able to survive, and you need to grind twice as long to reach those higher levels and to be able to buy better gear. I like it despite the grind, not because of it; In most of my play throughs, I end up using cheats to avoid the grind.

and aren't a glorified second job

I mean, games like Ultima Online, RuneScape, Diablo, and EverQuest have existed since the 90’s. Hell, RuneScape used to be extremely approachable for young players because it didn’t require a good computer or any installs; It just ran directly in your internet browser.

The bigger reason many adults feel this way is not because games have gotten longer or harder. Adults simply have less time to play. They don’t want to spend a bunch of time researching optimal builds or grinding rank in multiplayer matches. Instead, they want to fall back to the games that they already know how to play. They’re willing to ignore the fact that their favorite single player game requires 10-20 hours of grinding, because it doesn’t feel like work to them. Or if it does, they can just use cheats to get around it. They don’t need to research how to get a specific item, or how to approach a specific boss fight, because they have already done it a dozen times.

[-] PraiseTheSoup@lemm.ee 2 points 21 minutes ago

Why would you write this and then not say what your favorite jrpg that is specifically more grindy in America is? Do you write clickbait headlines for a living?

[-] Mic_Check_One_Two@reddthat.com 1 points 19 minutes ago

Hah, just edited the comment for you.

[-] Nalivai@lemmy.world 3 points 40 minutes ago

The games I play do respect my time but boy are they a second job. From Rimworld to Satisfactory, from Space Engineers to modded Minecraft... My job is a second job.

[-] golli@lemm.ee 2 points 1 hour ago

Tell that to everyone playing games like path of exile (which i admittedly have also played too much of in the past).

[-] itslilith 3 points 1 hour ago

PoE, Factorio, etc

I seem to like games that require spreadsheets

[-] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 8 points 1 hour ago

Built a new killer rig last summer. Have spent 90% of my time with it playing HL1 mods.

[-] MufinMcFlufin@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago

Recently upgraded to a 7800x3D, 64GB DDR5, and a 4070... which I've been using to get back into modded Minecraft recently.

[-] MisterOwl@lemmy.world 1 points 51 minutes ago

Same machine... The framerates I'm getting in Rimworld are off the charts.

[-] TinyShonk@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

Tbf, the larger modpacks can be pretty resource intensive.

[-] stopforgettingit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 2 hours ago

I am on a 6 year old computer playing 10 year old games. I don't see a need to upgrade anytime soon.

[-] Retropunk64@lemmy.world 7 points 1 hour ago

I'm on a 5 year old computer playing 20-30 year old games. I'm good over here. 😂

I bet WoW runs like a dream on that machine 😂

[-] Retropunk64@lemmy.world 3 points 1 hour ago

I haven't tried it! That would be like giving a reformed crack addict a hit off the pipe. 😂 No way can I ever even consider going back to that game.

[-] stopforgettingit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 51 minutes ago

If it makes you feel better, it will never be the same as it was when you first played. Every time there is a xpac that looks interesting I have tried and failed to get that feeling back. It devolves very quickly into feeling like a job again.

[-] HiroProtagonist@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 hour ago

I do hate being in the never ending upgrade cycle but the 10 year old games are limited, at least the ones I like to play.

[-] PeteWheeler@lemmy.world 12 points 2 hours ago

New games just don't have a 'punch' to it anymore. They are not not game breaking anymore.

There is absolutely nothing wrong with old games either. They are the same as they were, which is why reboots and remakes are so popular.

[-] Luminocta@lemm.ee 4 points 1 hour ago

I want to agree but some games are really well done. Kingdom Come Deliverance 2 is a good example.

However

I feel like many people are so focused on graphics and looks, like raytracing for example, that gameplay/story has become less important? Sucks but it is what it is I guess..

[-] ScoreDivision@programming.dev 2 points 1 hour ago

A good story isn't something groundbreaking that marketing teams can slap on the box in the same way they can with ray tracing dlss or whatever else I guess

[-] Zerberr@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 hours ago

Really looking forward to Kitten Space Agency though

[-] umbraroze@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

Much of my PC gaming, back in the day, was "oh this looks like a good game. Runs like dogshit on my PC though. Maybe I'll wait until I get a better PC." [wait 10 years] "My ADHD has gone worse, I can't play all this stuff"

[-] Zink@programming.dev 3 points 3 hours ago

It’s the Baldur’s Gate saga for me right now, and I’m still in the BG1 campaign.

It is such a great game to play on the couch with a trackball while chilling with the family.

[-] whotookkarl@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago

Older games = more than 2 years old? Then the same goes for readers, movie and TV watchers, etc media consumption most isn't from the current or previous years

[-] F_OFF_Reddit@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago

Either oldish titles or Indies, mainstream game devs are pure malaria

[-] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago

I'm playing a new old game, because i'm playing the Suikoden Remaster. There for I have beaten the system by simultaniously playing both an 20+ year old game and a brand new game thats a few weeks old.

[-] GreatAlbatross@feddit.uk 1 points 2 hours ago

I can agree with this: All the hype around KCD:2 led me to buying/playing KCD:1

[-] TechAnon@lemm.ee 1 points 3 hours ago

I play Rocket League and ~30,000 MAME games on a converted Arcade 1up. I'm waiting for my payment to go through for Vintage Story though -- that one is fairly new!

[-] Razzazzika@lemm.ee 12 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

Well. The nature of my backlog is like I wait for games to come down in price and by the time I get to them they're 10 years old haha.

I also have a habit of playing through the entire series before playing the newest one. I'm currently playing Legend of Heroes: A Tear of Vermillion which is the 4th game from Japan in that series but the 2nd to be released in US, SO I'm playing through it even though I don't like it and will beat the next two games to finally play Trails in the Sky which is the one I really probably should have started with.

I do that with all my games, like Doom Eternal looks cool and so does the upcoming Dark Ages, but I went back and played Doom 1 & 2. 64, then the updated remaster of Doom 1 & 2 when that came out, and now I'm working on Doom 3. I got one more whole Doom game before I even get to Eternal.

[-] Slam_Eye@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 hours ago

Still playing Battlefield 1942 mods.

[-] suaroof@lemmy.world 8 points 6 hours ago
[-] ipkpjersi@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 hours ago

I was playing a bunch of Skyrim with mods last year! Awesome game.

[-] Noite_Etion@lemmy.world 11 points 7 hours ago

There are good new games, but i cannot afford to pay for them. Especially when I blow through them in a couple of weeks/days.

Which is why I pirate them as a lot of new games lack quality content, are often buggy, and riddled with dlc/micro transactions. Why risk my money on a buggy undeveloped game when I can 'test' them for free, at times I have gone back and paid for a game I really enjoyed… but that is super rare.

Plus GPUs are overpriced, especially with AI taking over as it is, the price is just going to go up.

Why bother with all of that when I can just boot up Factorio again. Additionally mods really make old games feel fresh again... And they are free.

[-] Damaskox@lemmy.world 5 points 6 hours ago

My principle is "One euro, for one hour".

Does the game cost 40e? Am I unsure whether I'd enjoy the game for 40 hours? I'll get it for free first. Does it stick for that 40 hours or more, or will I get sure enough while playing to play that 40 hours at least? OK, take my money. No? It gets forgotten in my folder, and probably deleted later.

[-] ABetterTomorrow@lemm.ee 9 points 7 hours ago

I bet a small portion of them don’t buy GPU every gen or ever other. 1080 Ti strong.

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[-] buzz86us@lemmy.world 21 points 9 hours ago

Because crypto miners ruined gaming top end GPUs used to be $300 Max, now were looking in the thousands to have the best GPU for like 6 months, and you can't buy a used one because it could be a clapped out card used in a crypto miner

[-] GoodEye8@lemm.ee 6 points 6 hours ago

I don't think it's even necessarily that the GPU pricing has ballooned. I think the main reason is that that every new game has to compete with pretty much every other game ever made. For example I enjoyed Death Stranding and I am interested in Death Stranding 2, but I'm probably not getting in on launch because there's a big chance I'll probably start playing Stardew Valley for the n'th time, because I feel like that's what I want to play. I'll probably play DS2 when I get the Kojima itch.

[-] Croquette@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 hours ago

IMO, GPU prices have an impact. Modern gaming has a bad habit of not optimizing games relying on people getting newer GPUs for performance.

Mix that with the pre-order/early access monetization, and we are to a point where games have made their money before release, and beans counters don't want to put money in QA because there is no quantifiable ROI (there is a ROI, but it is hard to quantify), which is a no-no in their world.

Indie games have a tendancy to be less GPU demanding, and thus, usually have a better performance experience

[-] ipkpjersi@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 hours ago

Yep, that's the thing. Games have to be bigger, better, more fun than ever before, and yet the publishers and management want it to be done quicker and quicker than ever before, so it's a pretty difficult thing. That, combined with bad working conditions and the public shitting on you because "game devs are shitty/greedy/etc" with developers being used coloquially to absorb all the blame that should be reserved for management, and things are in a pretty tough spot.

Though, at the same time, it's a better time now than ever before to actually be a gamer, because not only can you play any half-decent new games, but you can also play the entire library of older games, retro games, etc.

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