I regret nothing. Say what you want.
Edit: I just saw the two typos. If you find them, you're welcome to keep them.
if you've never used ed(1) technically it's illegal for you to say "it's a UNIX system, i know this"
The irony being that scene had a GUI and ed is, well...
?obligatory FSN links
I coded several of my early mobile app releases entirely in gedit. Good times.
I sometimes forget how good we have it now. I wrote those apps around 2012 and the DX for the platforms was basically non-existent. Virtually every platform had shit documentation, shit version management, a shit IDE with minimal refactoring features, a shitty debugging experience, and everything felt like it was being botched together by 3 guys in their spare time.
It's incredible now that we have things like hot reloading. You can literally save a change and BAM it's on the screen seconds later. On native platforms no less. Astounding.
And then there is a colleague who programs in Notepad++ directly on the test server and then just copies his code to prod.
(yes, he works alone on that project)
i've programmed in edlin. so there.
Man I just use Notepad or IDLE most of the time, I feel you man
I do it in nano over ssh. The shortcuts suck but it gets the job done.
I used to copy code into nano over ssh. Then I randomly tried pasting the server address in my file browser and it connected over SFTP. This was ages ago. I was using Crunchbang Linux, maybe around 2011 or so.
You can enable modernbindings in nano to get standard shortcuts like ctrl-s for save.
Did not know this. Will certainly look into it because my nano over ssh days aren't over yet haha.
What about people, who just burn the machine code directly onto a CD with a laser?
Pff, real programmers use butterflies. We open our hands and let the delicate wings flap once. The disturbance ripples outward, changing the flow of the eddy currents in the upper atmosphere. These cause momentary pockets of higher-pressure air to form, which acts as lenses that deflect incoming cosmic rays, focusing them to strike the drive platter and flip the desired bit.
doesn't vim come with the Ubuntu installation?
Yep. Fancy devs watching me coding some Rakulang in nano 😂
Vim and emacs are text editors.
Vs code is a code editor (but really it's also just a text editor)
Maybe they mean IDEs like visual studio?
I've never really heard it called a coding GUI before.
I never quite understood the massive hard-on programmers have for splitting hairs.
I see you've never used emacs.
"it's a bit limited for an operating system"
Vim (and NeoVim) are as much coding environments as VS or JetBrains. The difference is in the defaults.
So an IDE is a code editor that ships with an LSP server, not just an LSP interface? (Doesn't have to be LSP as such but "stuff that an LSP server does").
My understanding has always been:
Text Editor: just writes text, no formatting (other than line endings)
Code Editor: A family Text Editors that have additional capabilities such as syntax highlighting. And optionally a plugin or extension ecosystem. (VSCode, vim family, Emacs, even gedit )
IDE: An application that includes Code Editor functionality, but also includes tools for a building on given tech stack. This comes out of the box, are a "part of" the application, are peers to the code editor, and cannot be removed, but can optionally be extended through plugins or extensions.
For me a web app IDE includes a DB manger, HTML previewer, etc.
A text editor edits text, an IDE is an Environment that Integrates Development tools.
I would say that an IDE is something that includes build/run tools integrated into it. Everything else is just a text editor. (But that's just my opinion of course)
To expand on my point, I don't think it makes sense to call vs code an integrated development environment if it doesn't actually have the environment integrated.
Visual studio and idea would be examples of IDEs, they actually have all of the tools and frameworks needed to run the languages they were built for out of the box.
You can't run node or python out of the box with just vs code for example, without their respective tooling, all vscode can do is edit the code and editing code is not functionally different from editing any other text.
So I maintain that both vim and vscode are text editors and not IDEs
Vocode integrates consoles for whatever you want. I use node and sql all the time.
Learned C++ by using gedit on the Sun machines in my college's computer lab in 2007. They were decommissioned shortly after I graduated.
I genuinely do a lot of coding in Kate, the standard KDE editor. It's enough to do a lot of things, has highlighting, and is more than enough when you just need a quick fix.
I am also still using nano when editing stuff in the terminal. Please, don't judge me.
To be fair, Kate isn't just a text editor, it actually is an IDE. The text editor version would be kwrite, which would be horrible to program in.
"Me who codes with the text editor that came with Ubuntu"...
So VIM?
More like gedit
I think gedit is a great text editor.
At uni I did a lot of my Java coursework in notepad, then I’d have to take it into a computer lab on a floppy, tar it and upload it to a unix terminal so it could be emailed to the professor. Java syntax with only the command line compiler is not fun.
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