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Summary

U.S. airstrikes on Houthi-held areas of Yemen killed at least 31 and injured 101, according to the Houthi health ministry.

The strikes followed renewed Houthi attacks on shipping, which they say are in response to Israel’s blockade of Gaza.

A Houthi spokesperson vowed retaliation, stating, “Our response will not be delayed.” Trump warned Iran to stop supporting the Houthis, while Iran distanced itself from the group.

The conflict has disrupted Red Sea shipping, prompting the U.S. to redesignate the Houthis as a terrorist organization earlier this month.

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[-] Doorbook@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago

I like how people say “Eat the rich” and “attack and vandalize musk product” and also the “boycott usa product” But then “i am with trump on this, houthies shouldnt attack ships because it affect economy”

Houthies this time stood for what they believe in “if you blockade aid to enter gaza, we will continue blockade on international goods through the red sea”

[-] hoch@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

You really dont know why people say "eat the rich" and "boycott usa product" but have issues supporting an internationally recognized terrorist organization?

So what, as long as I support Palestine, I'm free to attack random ships without repercussions? Give me a fucking break.

[-] prettybunnys@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 day ago

I can agree that we ought to not blockade the people of Gaza while also believing another group ought not shoot missiles at innocent shipping in an effort to raise awareness for the first group.

It’s not cognitive dissonance.

[-] x00z@lemmy.world 49 points 2 days ago

Oh I remember this episode.

  1. attack middle eastern nations
  2. middle eastern nations can not match strength of the US
  3. eventually middle eastern uses terrorism to show that you should not mess with them
  4. terrorism allows for authoritarian power grab in US
  5. ???
  6. profit
[-] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 26 points 2 days ago
  1. Spend 22 trillion dollars occupying a country and achieving noting. Then leave.
  2. profit (for the military industrial complex)
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[-] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 25 points 2 days ago

Houthis the leaders of the free world. What a timeline.

[-] elatedCatfish@lemm.ee 14 points 2 days ago

Ah yes, one of Iran’s proxies - leaders of the free world and gender apartheid /s

Ffs people…

[-] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 15 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Yes, the people standing up to genocide.

Say some words about headscarves and trans people while America and Israel are actively massacring the very people you are pretending to defend.. You must care so much about them.

[-] elatedCatfish@lemm.ee 4 points 1 day ago

It’s a lot less simple than you’re trying to make it out to be. I don’t support what Israel and the US are doing either, for your information.

Just don’t see how Iran or any of their proxies should be idolized considering their longstanding abuse of human rights among even just their own.

They do much worse than just put women in headscarves, if you’re not aware.

[-] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

It is a lot simper than you are trying to make it out to be. People hold a country of people who are victim of the previous genocide and is now standing up to a new one to an impossibly high standard, while the country genociding all over the world is never held to the same standard.

The only reason it is not black and white because it is brown and white.

[-] elatedCatfish@lemm.ee 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

So… you’re just cool with the whole gender apartheid thing? Islam and Christianity need to go with both - the world would be a lot better off

It should go without saying, obviously genocide is awful and I don’t support that.

Edit: and not partaking in gender apartheid doesn’t sound like too crazy of a standard to hold a society to with its own people…

[-] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Watch out the pinkwashining brigade has arrived.

Tad hard to take le epic atheism seriously when secularism is at its umpteenth genocide since its prominence on the world stage.

The Houthis are risking their lives to stop a genocide and somehow you believe people will take you seriously if you tell them that they are not good enough to do so?

[-] elatedCatfish@lemm.ee 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Said by the person that seems to look up to Iran and their buddies lol

I just find it laughable to call them the “leaders of the free world” when half of their own population isn’t even free lmao

[-] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

You are supporting governments perpetrating a genocide over governments standing up against genocide. You might one day notice your words about freedom ring a tad hollow when you support the worlds largest concentration camp. "lmao".

[-] elatedCatfish@lemm.ee 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

… who said I support them? I certainly didn’t. I just think Iran/Russia and their proxies are shit as well.

By all means if people rise up in the US against our corrupt government, I’ll be one of the first to grab my gun and be out on the streets.

[-] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

By all means if people rise up in the US against our corrupt government, I’ll be one of the first to grab my gun and be out on the streets.

Sure Iran and Yemen have plenty of faults. But they are the people grabbing the gun and rising up against the US backed genocide. By all means you or any other party is extremely welcome to showcase their moral superiority by outdoing Iran or Yemen in this.

[-] elatedCatfish@lemm.ee 1 points 1 day ago

Problem here is that conservatives are the armed ones and they’re the ones running the show with the govt. Anything that isn’t planned on a massive scale would be for naught and end up with us dead or in prison for life.

[-] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

I do not recall Americans being more receptive to violent resistance against genocide under the Democrats. If anything even less.

But the Houthis were doing this under the Democrats as well. They are nonpartisan like that.

Anything that isn’t planned on a massive scale would be for naught and end up with us dead or in prison for life.

Like for example a collective demand to massively hinder the economies of participating countries with a shipping blockade unless the genocide ends?

[-] SkyezOpen@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

America bad therefore... 🙄

[-] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago

America and Israel are conducting a genocide. Therefore the people risking their lives to stand up to America and Israel are better than America.

[-] futatorius@lemm.ee 17 points 2 days ago

What, participating in one genocide isn't enough for Trump? Now he has to join Bonesaw's one against the Yemenis too?

[-] cabb@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 day ago

The US has been selling weapons to Saudi Arabia for a long time and hasn't stopped even with the genocide in Yemen starting in 2014. There are 3 Presidents that are complicit in this, so he isn't really joining the genocide just ramping up US involvement.

[-] DaveyRocket@lemmy.world 42 points 2 days ago

I wonder how long the world is going to be okay with America using deadly violence in the Middle East as a way to mask and deflect from domestic turmoil? At least our “coalition of the willing (to commit war crimes)” is getting smaller.

[-] robbinhood@lemmy.world 25 points 2 days ago

ehhh.... fuck it, let's earn some downvotes.

I'm really not going to lose sleep over a group that intentionally targets civilian ships staffed, with you know, innocent civilians.

Trump sucks. But Iran's upper leadership also sucks, and they're funding this.

[-] smol_beans@lemmy.world 37 points 2 days ago

It's hilarious that your name is Robin Hood but you're completely against imposing a blockade to stop a genocide

[-] robbinhood@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Did Robin Hood go out and pepper innocent people with arrows? Was that the moral of the story?

Most ship crew members come from neutral developing countries, such as the Philippines. Maybe their lives don't mean much to you, but they mean a lot to me. Sorry, I'm never going to condone attacking innocent civilians.

[-] smol_beans@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Robin Hood committed crimes to help people in need. What's worse? Taking cargo vessels and holding their crew ransom or genociding millions of people? Fighting evil is usually ugly, if playing nice was effective we wouldn't be here

[-] robbinhood@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago

yeah, robin hood wasn't out attacking innocent people.

We're all the heroes in our own story but you're sitting here trying to defend attacking innocent civilians. I hope some day you're able to realize how messed up that is.

[-] smol_beans@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

How do you feel about what's happening to the Palestinians? if that was happening to you would you want someone to disrupt supply chains to help you?

[-] robbinhood@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

disrupt supply chains? Sure. Kill innocent civilians? Honestly, probably I would want them to kill whoever to save me, but I'd know that I was morally wrong, if not outright evil.

The mass violence experienced by the Palestinians has been horrific. The October 7th attack was barbaric. Prior actions in recent times by Israel helped pave the way for that attack. Ditto for Hamas. There certainly are and were evil persons among Hamas. Likewise, there are evil people in Israel in high places.

[-] smol_beans@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

I understand you. Taking innocent lives is wrong. I feel like my perspective comes from a similar sentiment to the JFK quote: "Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable."

Peaceful means have been tried to help the Palestinian people for decades and it hasn't been at all effective. That's the only reason I could possibly find myself being ok with what the yemenis do

[-] robbinhood@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

You're not going to like this, but the facts bear out: Palestinian leaders are complicit in all of this. They could have accepted a peace deal under Clinton decades ago and they'd have their own country right now. Palestinians have caused trouble in Jordan, Egypt, and elsewhere, which is why Arab nations in the ME are sometimes nearly as wary and as restricted on borders as Israel.

There are lots and lots of bad actors in Israel too, with Bibi chief among them. The USA, meanwhile, has typically done the bare minimum to restrain either side and has typically provided too much support IMO to Israel, ultimately enabling them.

This is not a black and white issue that it often gets boiled down to, with offending camps believing they are 100% the victims/right while the otherside is 100% evil/aggressor.

As for using violence, also keep in mind that if you throw punches, people will punch back. Picking a fight with a far, far more powerful force is going to result in you getting your ass kicked.

While I abhor how heavily Israel obliterated Gaza, I can also tell you that it was the inevitable outcome once Hamas and their allies starting (allegedly)cooking babies in ovens and mass mudering peaceful concert goers.

If someone going to use violence, understand that your opponents are going to use it too. Don't throw a punch and then cry because you (not you specifically, but people generally) got your ass beat.

[-] dutchkimble@lemy.lol 5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

They didn't hold the crew ransom, they blew them up with missiles and caused such a huge turmoil in supply chains that the cost of shipping went up by shitloads and affected the livelihoods of workers all across the world and affected cost of goods for consumers all over the world

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[-] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago

Do you think they are civilian vessels operated by mom and pop shops? They are owned by those innocent billionaires Robin loved so much.

Boats have been warned not to travel through the Red Sea until Israel lifts its illegal blockade on Gaza.

[-] robbinhood@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

What does any of that have to do with with the workers on the boats? Most of whom come from developing countries and are just trying to feed their families?

Astounding.

[-] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Most of whom come from developing countries and are just trying to feed their families?

Shame billionaires are using those workers as human shields and send them through a blockade. Those millions in lost revenue must affect only the poor worker and not the owner of the ship.

[-] robbinhood@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Yeah, and it's a shame that people, especially from developing countries, are forced into these situations due to economic realities.

Stop mentioning the billionaires. They are not important in this conversation. They are not on the the ships, and the only impact these events have on them is pushing up insurance prices and other costs but even that is a drop in the bucket.

And stop acting like you're some sort of hero. Given your position, I highly doubt you actually care any more about these workers then then billionaires. Both you and them seem to be looking at 'em as disposable.

[-] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Stop mentioning the billionaires. They are not important in this conversation.

They are the people with influence in the governments committing genocides. They are also the people primarily being impacted. They and the insurance companies. And the consumers. And Western people do not care about anything unless it costs them money

In the wise words of Mohammed Al Kurd:

You can’t protest peacefully. You can’t boycott. You can’t hunger strike. You can’t hijack planes. You can’t block traffic. You can’t throw Molotovs. You can’t self-immolate. You can’t heckle politicians. You can’t march. You can’t riot. You can’t dissent. You just can’t be.

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[-] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 22 points 2 days ago

That's just how blockades work; what else do you want them to do?

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