TLDR: Audiobookshelf
Been selfhosting it for a few years. Audible is an interesting comparison and I agree with the author that ABS is superior. But it's not without its issues and challenges. Any good podcast app has vastly superior UX. That said, I'm a hoarder and I just have to store every podcast I subscribe to for some reason.
Reminder that "self hosting" media is an extra step, you can do the same with "saving media locally and playing it"
But how will I bring up my NAS in conversations at parties?
Tell them you'll bring the music but instead play books at them during quiet times...lord of the rings anyone?
what is thisyarty thing
The author actually explains that his original solution was just saving them locally on his phone and playing them from there, but that was too much legwork for his wife to want to switch from a cloud service like Audible. So the whole self hosting part is to become “Audible” for his wife lol.
I feel like the answer to the question "why are you self-hosting" is almost always "because my significant other/family/friends use it"
One of the big draws for me is the scrobbling, across a lot of my self-hosted apps. Comics, shows, books, whatever. I love that I can watch some of a show, or read some of a comic series, then go months without worrying about where I was before picking it back up again. I can pick up where I left off, which is one area where simply having files on a file-system falls short.
And it's a valid point. Services like audible and Netflix offer something that can not be matched by traditional storage, that's why they are profitable to begin with. Streaming content instead of downloading it to each device is a good selling point, one which is covered by self hosting this stuff.
That's great, until you want to switch devices while still keeping your progress.
Shoutout to Libation, that allows you to download and deDRM your Audible library.
Oooooo, but there be dragons.
Documentation? Yer lookin' at it This is a single-developer personal passion project. Support, response, updates, enhancements, bug fixes etc are as my free time allows I have a full-time job, a life, and a finite attention span. Therefore a lot of time can potentially go by with no improvements of any kind
It's good they put it up front though. There can be a lot of entitlement with oss users sometimes and setting expectations can help alleviate that.
Actually good for the developer. He is doing it out of his passion and faith in OSS. What more should we want of him? The dude is already a hero.
It's just a warning not to get into it unless you're capable of helping yourself.
That's true of all self-hosting.
In my experience, that's just true of all software. There's a couple of high end InDesign plugins I use for work. Aside from that, I'm on my own.
De-DRMing audible audio books and self hosting are not inextricably linked. I just wanted to repost it to make sure people saw it before diving in.
The origins of the phrase "here be dragons" is one of placing a warning of caution on an unexplored area of the map. It says nothing negative about the developer.
You don't really need much documentation. You set it up on windows once, which is pretty intuitive and then you copy the config to your server and run it headless. It pulls your library in fixed intervals. I haven't touched it once in the year it is running now
It works now, even if later he gets tired of it and walks away it still works now.
Awesome.
I knew it was gonna be Audiobookshelf as soon as I saw the headline. Great software. My wife has all her books hosted on it on our NAS, and it barely takes any resources. I have it hosted alongside Plex in a VM on a teeny tiny Ryzen 5500u Mini-PC.
Edit - I'm even more amused that I have almost the same configuration as the article author, Proxmox server hosting the guest, just mine's an Ubuntu 24.04 server VM instead of LXC. That little server hosts Plex, Audiobookshelf, Lyrion, and AssetUPnP, pretty much handles all my media stuff, plus a separate Home Assistant VM, and has resources to spare.
In addition to self-hosting, I'll throw out a few other alternatives:
Free:
Paid:
DRM-free is important IMO because otherwise you're at the mercy of the platform and if the company ever changes its Terms of Use or wipes your account, you lose your purchases. Amazon have remotely deleted books from users' libraries in the past or replaced them with modified copies (e.g. Roald Dahl books). Kindle announced last month they won't let you download your eBooks via USB so it's possible Audible could see changes for the worse in the future as well.
I always mention whenever I see libro.fm brought up: if you don't have a local store you want to support for whatever reasons, Firestorm in Asheville, North Carolina is a fantastic refuge for the local queer community, it's a worker cooperative, and they're struggling to survive. Please consider them if there isn't another local place in your own community. With the big book stores and then Amazon, a lot of communities don't have a physical local shop anymore, so if someone has a plug for their local, I think it's worth making on these kinds of threads.
Nice.
I was paying for a family subscription for a major audiobook provider for a while. That changed after I used a 3rd party app to listen to their audiobooks and apparently broke their eula, and they were threatening to sue me and my 7 year old kid for it. Kinda killed the spirit to pay for their service.
Prologue on iOS does a great job of device syncing my Plex audiobook library. And no subscription requirement for once.
"Self-host" is just a euphemism for "pirate" right? ...Right?
You can buy audiobooks outside of Audible: https://soundbooththeater.com/series/dungeon-crawler-carl/
Not necessarily.
No. It’s a term which means a services hosted by…yourself.
No. I paid for all my books but so not use Audible etc to access them
For those on iOS looking for a companion app, check out plappa for a great app to access your Audiobookshelf/jellyfin instance. It works flawlessly for me, no data collection, and it allows downloading books in advance for on the go if you choose not to have external access to your server.
I love Audiobookshelf, my main complaint is the Android app crashes when killed by Android (so when I try to open it I get a message about it crashing and then have to reopen it). That might just be a me thing.
I used the tool Libation to download my Audible books. There was a Firefox extension to download audiobooks from Libby but it's no longer working because Libby changed something and the dev didn't have time to fight the battle, anyone have a good solution to that?
I love Audiobookshelf, my main complaint is the Android app crashes when killed by Android (so when I try to open it I get a message about it crashing and then have to reopen it). That might just be a me thing.
Hmm, I've been using Audiobookshelf on my Android phone(s) for at least the last year without issues like that. Are you using the F-droid or Play Store version? I'm using F-droid if that matters.
Yes, I am aware of where this is posted and am prepared for my inevitable crucifixion as a result of this observation. But, like... is this really a problem that requires a self hosting solution? That seems like quite the overcomplication to me unless you absolutely require access to your entire selection on multiple devices that will have 24/7 network connections for some reason. I imagine most people actually don't. And if you do, a simple file share is probably a less convoluted solution, and surely already exists on the server you already have.
MP3's take up negligible amounts of storage space on modern devices and can be played on anything, and can be easily taken with you anywhere including out of network range.
I guess teaching people how to drag-and-drop audio files onto their phone and open them with VLC would be a much shorter article.
(Ed: Punctuation.)
Yeeeah, gonna have to disagree with that. Having dead simple access to your library on any device is amazing. ABS syncs your listening position between devices, has offline downloading, supports rich metadata, collections, customized sleep timers, and quite a bit more.
Mostly agree. Audiobooks are not my thing, but of it were - I'd look for a way to resume where I left off, maybe some recommendation on what to listen to next.
In general - once you're into hosting stuff and past the initial barrier of setting everything up - adding another service is dead simple.
MP3s do not show artwork or keep your place, and they don't sync across devices.
I just wish their official app would get out of beta already. It’s been stuck in limbo forever.
I was really confused about this cause the app is great. Googled Plappa and realized you were stuck on IOS. My heart goes out to you.
Check out plappa
Thanks for the heads up! Tired of trying to make the Emby app work for audiobooks.
What I really want is a a similar project for epub files. I’ve not been able to find a web based library that allows easy download and auth based management.
That's a solved problem, the answer is Calibre. If you want a nicer interface and some other fluff you can install calibre-web as a frontend for it. Calibre-web is very interesting if you have a Kobo e-reader because you can configure it as your store and get the books you add to calibre to magically appear on the e-reader with a nice download button next to it.
Nice article! I've been using Audiobookshelf (win) for a year and a bit. Works great with one exception, I can't upgrade it past 2.17.16 on my Win11 box (non-docker). Any attempt to take it past that gives a non-responsive server. Not a big deal because that version is pretty stable.
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