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[-] candyman337@sh.itjust.works 5 points 20 hours ago

This is why we need ranked choice voting

[-] Darkmoon_UK@lemm.ee 34 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

So 68.1% of the American public are complicit. Worse than I thought TBH. Fuck.

[-] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago)

Complicit with genocide? That's everybody who voted actually.

[-] Retropunk64@reddthat.com 7 points 1 day ago

Yeah, no, that's not how that works. We've got the electoral college, remember? There were 20 states that went blue. Any additional votes to Harris in those states wouldn't have made Trump win less, refraining to vote in those states ultimately didn't matter. You need to look at the percentage of people that didn't vote in states that went red. But I get it, its easier to blame everyone who didn't vote than to use critical thought.

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[-] dragonlobster@programming.dev 50 points 1 day ago

Your vote only matters in swing states. The whole electoral college thing is fucked.

[-] gabbath@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Internalizing the "your vote only matters in purple states" will turn it into a self fulfilling prophecy.

Previously blue states have turned purple, previously purple states have turned red. Nothing is set in stone, although resting on your laurels (if your state is blue) or giving up (if your state is red) will all but guarantee that the changes will only happen in one direction: the bad one.

In 2020, Texas would have gone blue were it not for Ken Paxton purging mail-in votes, by Paxton's own admission.

Nothing is set in stone, so you need fight for every inch.

[-] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago)

Internalizing the “your vote only matters in purple states” will turn it into a self fulfilling prophecy.

They're not prophesizing about some future, but making an obvious factual statement about present reality.

Nothing is set in stone, so you need fight for every inch.

You should check out the current administration. They're not leaving any time soon.

[-] papertowels@mander.xyz 1 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

Does emphasizing "votes only matter in swing states" influence future votes?

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[-] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 23 hours ago

This is true of every election except maybe one.

Nobody always wins. The "winner" is always elected by a tiny minority. It's a fundamentally corrupt system. Always has been. Literally concocted by genocidal slavers.

[-] Treczoks@lemmy.world 34 points 1 day ago

Hitler got about 33% back when he started. He achieved his position by simply ignoring the law after that. Sounds familiar?

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[-] HalfSalesman@lemm.ee 8 points 1 day ago

Not a mandate, but voter's apathetic acceptance.

[-] stebo02@lemmy.dbzer0.com 34 points 1 day ago

Not voting is not the same as not voting for Trump. Not voting is complying with other people's votes. If you don't live in a swing state then that's understandable but if you live in a swing state and didn't vote, you have allowed Trump to win this election.

I wonder what the percentage of not voters in swing states is. Surely it would be way lower since they have more incentive to vote right?

[-] kreskin@lemmy.world 2 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

Of course the dems didnt win. How can an ostensibly leftist politcal party win an election based on support of another countrys far right-wing genocidal war, while standing for very little else, and while also reaching rightward for republican votes? Did you honestly think rhetorically waving a glock around and hugging Liz Cheney would simply work out?

The only winners here who got exactly what they wanted were AIPAC, who also were the biggest funders of both american polictial parties in what is essentially a mercenary state.

So why blame the voters when its the dem party leadership and AIPAC who set this lose-lose scenario up?

[-] stebo02@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

If you live in a country with only two options, you have to pick between one of the options, or let other people do it for you. If you chose to go with the latter, I hope it worked out for you.

Also the democratic party isn't leftist at all so idk what you expect. It's center-right at best.

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[-] xorollo@leminal.space 8 points 1 day ago

Let's get a count of all of the votes that were tossed due to targeted voter registration purges.

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[-] DaveyRocket@lemmy.world 137 points 1 day ago

Also! They literally let someone hand out 250 million dollars, openly, and our “courts” gave it the go-ahead - even if it goes against some of the longest standing legal precedent regarding buying votes (done with booze back in the day).

This election wasn’t a thumb on the scale, it was the oligarchs mushroom-stamping humanity.

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[-] Apocalypteroid@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago

As a brit I have found it fascinating how American and British politics seem to mirror each other. This is exactly the same argument that was levelled against Brexit. The stats the TV showed was 51% vs 49% in favour of Brexit but only 60% of the country voted and with this teeny tiny majority of voters the Conservatives enacted a massive constitutional change and causes absolute havoc which we are still paying for today.

We've since voted out the party that caused it but it landed us with an ineffective centrist Labour party who are continuing the mistakes of the past and not appealing to the left in the slightest (sound familiar?). This government still has 4 more years left in power but unless they change tack then I am very worried that we will have a extreme right version of the Conservatives in power next election.

The problem is the First Past The Post voting system. It's not true democracy. It's weighted to the right. Two parties, both in the pocket of big business. One who says "Oh, we'd love to help all you poors but it's really not possible to increase taxes on the rich and invest in our country", and the other who says "you'll be poor but at least you're not gonna get deported or persecuted like those gay and brown people".

TLDR: Both the US and the UK need urgent electoral reform. Write to your representative. Make it an issue. Do not stop until it is a number one priority for these ghouls or they will keep fucking us.

Thank you for attending my Ted talk. Goodnight.

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[-] RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world 38 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Fucking wrong. Every asshole who abstained from voting, voted for Trump. He received 60%. At the very least, that 30% didnt vote for someone else.

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