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Summary

Former vice presidential nominee Tim Walz criticized Trump for economic chaos while taking personal responsibility for the situation during an MSNBC interview.

"We wouldn't be in this mess if we'd have won the election — and we didn't," Walz told Chris Hayes. He called Trump the "worst possible business executive" and praised the Wall Street Journal's editorial criticizing Trump's tariff war.

Walz emphasized Democrats must offer something better, not just criticize Trump. Recently, he acknowledged a leadership void in the Democratic Party and admitted spending too much time combatting Trump's false claims about immigrants.

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[-] oakey66@lemmy.world 40 points 2 days ago

Meanwhile Democrats are lining up Rham Emanuel and Gavin Newsom to run. Lol

[-] GreenSkree@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago

And Gavin Newsom started a podcast and is cozying up to crazy right wingers.

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[-] conditional_soup@lemm.ee 19 points 1 day ago

I already had some respect for Walz, and it has now grown by leaps and bounds. While much of the messaging from the democrats seems to contain some level of voter or constituent blaming, Walz is out there taking responsibility.

[-] hperrin@lemmy.ca 37 points 2 days ago

It wasn’t really Tim’s fault. I will never understand why Kamala decided it was more important to try to court Republicans than get Democrats excited. Democrats, and I know this will be a big surprise to Democratic leadership, don’t want to vote for conservatives.

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[-] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 25 points 2 days ago

Fucking finally. A Democrat we we can respect, because they don't rely on their role inthe damage.

[-] taiyang@lemmy.world 19 points 2 days ago

Well, I mean the worst Walz did personally was maybe his performance against JD, but that's pretty small compared to a lot of other errors that can be attributed to the collective campaign decisions and DNC as a whole. And yes, Biden. And really, 2020 and 2016. Actually fuck it, compared to all the butterfly effect possibilities, Walz is such a small part of why we're in this mess, lol. I still want the 2000 supreme court to support the Florida recount that actually says Gore won.

Still, kudos for taking responsibility.

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[-] venotic@kbin.melroy.org 24 points 2 days ago

You know what? Yes we are in this mess - BECAUSE of you. You didn't call on Trump for him admitting that he allowed the election to be rigged in his favor. You didn't hold up the election for it to be truly verified. You just allowed Harris to verify it because you wanted to try and make yourselves look good that you didn't cause an insurrection for brownie points. You didn't work hard enough to change the course of your campaign with Harris because you decided to centralize it on a narcissistic whore like Trump.

Aside from 71+ million uneducated fucking morons that call themselves American, you have a part of fault in this. The "at least we're not Trump" play didn't work in 2016, what made you think it'd fucking work in 2024? You didn't build off of any of the momentum from Biden and you didn't dare try to say or do things differently than what Biden did.

While it is not entirely your fault, it is partially your fault too. You better fucking have something better by 2026 or this country mind as well be called the United States of Amerinazis if it isn't already classified that.

[-] Keeponstalin@lemmy.world 27 points 2 days ago

Walz was the VP pick, he had no choice but to toe the line with the top-ot-the-ticket (Harris and the DNC), who sidelined Walz and prevented him from promoting many of the progressive policies that Walz passionately supports. As VP you can't just come out in opposition to the runming Presidents platform, that was one of the major problems of the campaign.

[-] AbnormalHumanBeing@lemmy.abnormalbeings.space 21 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Yeah, I really don't like the Democrats and don't agree with Waltz 100% at all, but it's clear he is at least a genuine person caught up in a shit organisation.

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[-] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 24 points 2 days ago

Clearly he’s a Russian plant. Everyone knows we should only blame voters and never the politicians who lost.

[-] Sixtyforce@sh.itjust.works 22 points 2 days ago

I blame the DNC and Harris far more than him, he was a relatively minor politician recruited by them pretty late in the game. Everyone was worried he'd be too boring, but despite the background character designation, he still came across better than Harris.

[-] Ilandar@lemm.ee 4 points 1 day ago

So many copers in this thread. I hate to break it you guys but Trump was always going to win that election based off the economy, the cover up of Biden's obvious senility and the bit no one wants to talk about - that the Democratic candidate was a Black woman. There is no alternative timeline in which Harris runs on a utopian fantasy land progressive policy agenda and defeats Trump.

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