621
submitted 1 year ago by MicroWave@lemmy.world to c/news@lemmy.world

The shooter, a white man, killed three people after writing messages of hatred for Black people. He killed himself after opening fire in a dollar store.

A white gunman fatally shot three Black people in hate-motivated shooting at a Dollar General retailer in Jacksonville on Saturday afternoon, Sheriff T.K. Waters said.

"This shooting was racially motivated, and he hated Black people," the sheriff said at a news conference. "He wanted to kill n------."

top 50 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[-] Gingerlegs@lemmy.world 96 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

👈 trump effect did this

[-] RegularGoose@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 year ago

Violent racism isn't a product of Trump. Trump is a product of violent racism.

[-] itsprobablyfine@feddit.uk 20 points 1 year ago

I think there's an argument to be .ade for it being a positive feedback loop

load more comments (3 replies)
[-] Franzia 60 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

“This was, quite frankly, a maniac who decided he wanted to take lives,”

~~Copycat shooter with a manifesto, armed with the usual kit: A plate carrier, an AR-15, and a Glock.~~

~~While I can see this is a racially motivated shooting, I think this pattern indicates some deeper... suicidal, martyrdom ideology. The intent includes the suicide. It's suicidally motivated, too. These plans include the repetitive messaging of a newsfeed marching down the list of mass shootings by scared whitr supremacists. Racial killing, suicide, manifesto, and the date makes it a copycat killing. Is he truly a maniac, if so many are falling into this same set of cowardly cries for help?~~

~~I feel no sympathy for the dead shooter. But I stare into the abyss, feeling I must empathize with the scared white supremacist who does this next.~~

~~Stochastic Terrorism (wiki)~~

[-] Burn_The_Right@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I must empathize with the scared white supremacist who does this next.

Really?! What the fuck?

Conservatives do not empathize with you. They see empathy as a weakness to exploit. Do not empathize with them unless you'd like to become their next victim.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

You can empathize with someone without being exploited by them. I empathize with prisoners suffering in solitary confinement because I consider it inhumane. That doesn't mean I'm going to allow myself to be attacked by a murderous psychopath without defending myself.

load more comments (1 replies)
[-] RegularGoose@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Empathy is not agreement or defense, it's understanding. Refusing to empathize is refusing to find a solution. Stop being part of the problem.

load more comments (1 replies)
load more comments (3 replies)
load more comments (2 replies)
[-] PresentlySneeds@lemmy.world 54 points 1 year ago

The shooter was clearly driven to violence by socioeconomic hardship

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 33 points 1 year ago

Also, the gun had nothing to do with it. It was because our country does nothing about the mental health crisis.

What? Government subsidized mental health care? What are you, a commie?

[-] NewNewAccount@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

You think you’re clever but you’re just an asshole. Keep defending fucking nazi terrorists, scum.

[-] MegaSloth@lemmy.world 73 points 1 year ago

It's a joke on how white mass shooters are portrayed as victims of society instead of as terrorists

load more comments (14 replies)
[-] Annoyed_Crabby@monyet.cc 13 points 1 year ago
[-] NewNewAccount@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

No. The intent of the commenter’s comment is very clear to me and I guarantee he’s laughing at the fact his comment was upvoted while mine was downvoted.

Check his comment history. He’s a right-wing troll.

load more comments (1 replies)
[-] lennybird@lemmy.world 54 points 1 year ago

The list of violent right-wing extremist violence is is growing very long.

All this fanned by right-wing media and foreign agents like Russia.

[-] reverendsteveii@lemm.ee 46 points 1 year ago

OH BOY ANOTHER LONE WOLF! CAN'T FUCKING MOVE FOR LONE WOLVES AROUND HERE!

If you ever wondered what you would do in Germany in the 30s, you're doing it right now.

load more comments (2 replies)
[-] BonesOfTheMoon@lemmy.world 41 points 1 year ago

Florida is full of Nazis. Pretty much every biker bar in Florida is home to white supremacists. You couldn't get me to visit Florida for anything.

[-] negativeyoda@lemmy.world 40 points 1 year ago

Veritable pack of lone wolves, amirite?

[-] WaxedWookie@lemmy.world 37 points 1 year ago

I love it that Nazis are too damn stupid to give their allies plausible deniability and keep covering everything in swaztikas.

The Allen Texas mall shooter was a great example - the right wing media tried arguing he was Hispanic, and that he wasn't right-wing - his huge swaztika tattoos were a false flag... That he wore for years. Even your average Fox viewer isn't buying that.

[-] Thaumiel@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago

I have some bad news for you about the average Fox viewer.

load more comments (1 replies)
[-] FaeDrifter@midwest.social 10 points 1 year ago

He didn't actually die, it was all staged, and the tattoos were the temporary ink tattoos.

This is sarcasm but maybe I shouldn't give the conspiracy theorists any more ideas.

The most ridiculous part is how self-contradictory the right wing media explanations get. Like he's a false flag to make right wing white nationalists look bad, but simultaneously he's an example of how dangerous Hispanic immigrants are. Firehouse of misinformation - hopefully something sticks, right!?

load more comments (1 replies)
[-] ediculous@feddit.nl 36 points 1 year ago

The sheriff just casually dropped the N word in this press conference?

[-] PrincessLeiasCat@sh.itjust.works 49 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yes, he’s Black, and he said that it was the only time he was going to say it. I feel like it’s his prerogative to decide when he can say that in response to an attack on his community.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

When said by the right person in the right context, that word can go from a word used to attack the innocent to a word used to condemn the racist.

load more comments (1 replies)
load more comments (1 replies)
[-] Fades@lemmy.world 25 points 1 year ago

Did that fucking sheriff seriously use the n word in damn press release…. What the fuck????

[-] CoderKat@lemm.ee 25 points 1 year ago

Yeah. I don't understand it even in context.

"This shooting was racially motivated, and he hated Black people," the sheriff said at a news conference. "He wanted to kill n------. "That's the one and only time I'll use that word," Waters said, referring to the racial slur.

Like, what??? Why use it even that "one and only" time?

[-] Llamadramas@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago

I imagine it's a quote from the manifesto. So he said it to drive home the clarity of the hate.

load more comments (2 replies)
load more comments (6 replies)
[-] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago

Huh, I wonder if he was Antifa or not.

load more comments (3 replies)
[-] ArugulaZ@kbin.social 19 points 1 year ago

Just save time and give him a urinal instead of a gravestone.

[-] chemicalprophet@lemm.ee 18 points 1 year ago
load more comments (1 replies)
[-] iforgotmyinstance@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

Typical modern conservative. Waffling between keeping up the act or full mask-off racism.

[-] twogems@lemm.ee 13 points 1 year ago

Rest in hell

[-] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 7 points 1 year ago

I was gonna say the world is shit, but it’s really mostly an us thing. We suck.

[-] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 year ago

3 fatalities doesn't even qualify as a mass killing.

How sad is that?

The mass killing in Ohio on the 24th qualifies though.

load more comments
view more: next ›
this post was submitted on 27 Aug 2023
621 points (100.0% liked)

News

23353 readers
2689 users here now

Welcome to the News community!

Rules:

1. Be civil


Attack the argument, not the person. No racism/sexism/bigotry. Good faith argumentation only. This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban. Do not respond to rule-breaking content; report it and move on.


2. All posts should contain a source (url) that is as reliable and unbiased as possible and must only contain one link.


Obvious right or left wing sources will be removed at the mods discretion. We have an actively updated blocklist, which you can see here: https://lemmy.world/post/2246130 if you feel like any website is missing, contact the mods. Supporting links can be added in comments or posted seperately but not to the post body.


3. No bots, spam or self-promotion.


Only approved bots, which follow the guidelines for bots set by the instance, are allowed.


4. Post titles should be the same as the article used as source.


Posts which titles don’t match the source won’t be removed, but the autoMod will notify you, and if your title misrepresents the original article, the post will be deleted. If the site changed their headline, the bot might still contact you, just ignore it, we won’t delete your post.


5. Only recent news is allowed.


Posts must be news from the most recent 30 days.


6. All posts must be news articles.


No opinion pieces, Listicles, editorials or celebrity gossip is allowed. All posts will be judged on a case-by-case basis.


7. No duplicate posts.


If a source you used was already posted by someone else, the autoMod will leave a message. Please remove your post if the autoMod is correct. If the post that matches your post is very old, we refer you to rule 5.


8. Misinformation is prohibited.


Misinformation / propaganda is strictly prohibited. Any comment or post containing or linking to misinformation will be removed. If you feel that your post has been removed in error, credible sources must be provided.


9. No link shorteners.


The auto mod will contact you if a link shortener is detected, please delete your post if they are right.


10. Don't copy entire article in your post body


For copyright reasons, you are not allowed to copy an entire article into your post body. This is an instance wide rule, that is strictly enforced in this community.

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS