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[-] tsonfeir@lemm.ee 38 points 2 years ago
[-] AFKBRBChocolate@lemmy.world 33 points 2 years ago

The shooting, or saying he wasn't home? Seems like the shooting was pretty justified given they were actively trying to break down his door.

[-] DocBlaze@lemmy.world 36 points 2 years ago

my concern is, what if it goes through the wall across the hall and gets somebody in the apartment on the immediate other side?

[-] AFKBRBChocolate@lemmy.world 17 points 2 years ago

For sure a concern, but still seems like a reasonable action given that those guys didn't look like they wanted to sell Tupperware.

[-] vanderbilt@kbin.social 14 points 2 years ago

It's a definite possibility and so is the resulting liability. However, unless that concrete is a facade or otherwise very thin it will probably stop handgun rounds up to even the .45 caliber size. If he's using defensive rounds (hollow points), then penetration through concrete is reduced even further as they are made to expand and dump their kinetic energy within a very short distance after the expansion is triggered. The bullet damage to the wall is something he will certainly be liable for though, also his new screen door lol.

See the following for an example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qFwntHIWjaw

[-] psycho_driver@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago

I'm wondering if this is why they shot out their door at an angle instead of straight out. Not very likely for the bullets to go through concrete, but the door across the way? Yeah, a definite possibility. If the guy had that much presence of mind in that situation then good on him.

[-] Death_Equity@lemmy.world 25 points 2 years ago

The gamble was shooting through the door and possibly hitting someone in the apartment across the way.

Hopefully that cholo got perforated and nobody else.

[-] abbotsbury@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago

No need to use racial terms

[-] Death_Equity@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago

You don't even know what "cholo" means.

[-] Transcendant@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago

Correct me if I'm wrong, but it's a reference to a subculture, not an ethnicity. Though most cholos are probably hispanic, being a 'cholo' isn't down to your racial genetics, it's a subculture.

[-] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

It meant someone who has indigenous ancestry.. ie, a racial term, since there are many American indigenous ethnicities.

You could argue it doesn't mean that anymore, but do you often hear it being applied to non-Hispanic people?

[-] abbotsbury@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

Racializing was unnecessary

[-] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 1 points 2 years ago

What do you think it means?

[-] Riven@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 10 months ago

Might depend on the area but neither I nor any other Hispanic or Latino I know see cholo as a racial insult or slur (granted I'm a tiny sample size). It's more of a descriptor than anything in my experience.

Source: am Mexican with native ancestry.

[-] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 16 points 2 years ago

And one of them had a gun in their hand.

[-] AFKBRBChocolate@lemmy.world 17 points 2 years ago

The one cop said there were shell casings outside, so they were shooting too

[-] teft@startrek.website 5 points 2 years ago

the shooting was pretty justified given they were actively trying to break down his door.

Especially in texas.

[-] Helldiver_M@kbin.social 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

At least as far as criminal law goes. However, I've heard of some pretty wacky situations where defending your home like this can result in some civil liability.

[-] Manifish_Destiny@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

Thats why you always shoot to kill. Its cheaper in the US.

[-] Anticorp@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago
[-] Helldiver_M@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago

There is a difference between criminal law and civil law. Yes, you can get sued for self-defense in civil court in Texas: https://www.walkertaylorlaw.com/sued-for-self-defense-in-texas/

[-] Swarfega@lemm.ee 6 points 2 years ago

TV too high

[-] regulatorg@discuss.online 4 points 2 years ago

Why didn't he shoot to the left?

[-] MurphysPaw@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 years ago

I think he was worried about shooting through the neighbours door

[-] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Judging by how the door opens after the cops arrive, I don't think he shot through the door, but had it opened just a crack and was simply firing blindly.

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