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The US has rejected a Canadian proposal to establish a task force that would tackle Russia’s so-called “shadow fleet” of oil tankers, according to reports last night.

Canada, which has the current Group of Seven presidency, proposed the measure ahead of a meeting of G7 foreign ministers in Quebec later this week.

In negotiations to agree a joint statement on maritime issues, the US is pushing to strengthen language about China while watering down wording on Russia, the reports said.

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[-] LordWiggle@lemmy.world 5 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

Make it a G6. Problem solved. Russia isn't in the G7 so it shouldn't have a vote or veto in the first place. Not directly nor by proxy.

[-] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 6 points 13 hours ago

Just make it a European operation and that's it.

[-] MoonRaven@feddit.nl 24 points 22 hours ago

This is why veto shouldn't be a thing.

[-] Litebit@lemmy.world 39 points 1 day ago

create a new coalition of G6 let US stay in G7 alone.

[-] subarctictundra@lemmy.world 10 points 14 hours ago

This reminds me of 2014 when it stopped being the G8.

Fuck yeah. Pop some bottles in the ice

[-] Treczoks@lemmy.world 16 points 1 day ago
[-] Hobbes_Dent@lemmy.world 136 points 1 day ago

America

Correct. Nice to see headlines reflecting the complicity of the nation.

Fuck you, fix your country before we all die.

Fuck you.

[-] FenrirIII@lemmy.world 63 points 1 day ago

If you're waiting on Americans to storm the capital, then you're going to have to wait until a Democrat wins the presidency again.

[-] wewbull@feddit.uk 1 points 15 hours ago

There's no guarantee the constitution will last long enough for there to be another election. Why are you all waiting for something that may not come?

[-] DaveyRocket@lemmy.world 41 points 1 day ago

You act like it’s an America problem and not a billionaire problem. Where do you live that you think the same billionaires don’t own you too?

We need to transcend nations before we all die and a handful of oligarchs have power forever.

You are right, but as citizens in nations, we can only demand solutions at the national level. Right now in that regard the problems are with the oligarchs in Russia and the oligarchs in the US, and they have control each of their respective countries. We are very well aware that there are rich assholes willing to play to Putin's tune in many of our countries and that they are financing opposition parties considerably.

[-] axh@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

oligarchs in Russia and the oligarchs in the US, and they have control each of their respective countries

When oligarchs in russia behave like Musk, they soon fall out of the window.

[-] TheObviousSolution@kbin.melroy.org 4 points 22 hours ago

Putin is the biggest oligarch in Russia.

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[-] halfempty@fedia.io 18 points 1 day ago

Did you mis the part about how it is a single >>NATION<< that veto'd the shadow oil fleet ban? So obviously a nation is the problem here, and of course the billionaires who have taken control of that nation.

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[-] masterbaexunn@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago

Lmao Don't act like people from the US didn't vote for exactly this. This is an America problem. Through and through. FAFO

[-] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago

I love that you invoke FAFO and clearly don't see the irony.

btw, you're acting exactly like the magats do.

good luck staying in that ivory tower.

[-] masterbaexunn@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago

Lordy what ivory tower? Lmao.

How many decades has the united States told other countries how they are the shining beacon on the hill? How long has the US put their finger in latin America? How many more American guns need to come into my country.

You all were told that electing that idiot into office would have horrendous outcomes, not only for the US, but for the world. Y'all did it twice. Hence the FAFO

[-] TheGalacticVoid@lemm.ee 2 points 14 hours ago

You act like Americans weren't screaming at other Americans saying that this would be the exact outcome. You also act like Americans weren't yelling at other Americans about guns, imperialism, climate, and so much more of the country's vices. And lastly, you act like Americans don't get punished years down the line after their leaders make the most brain-dead decisions imaginable.

[-] DaveyRocket@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Americans absolutely did not vote for this! You call an election where one man can pay out a quarter billion - legally - a fair election? Do you think 90% of Russians vote for Putin too? We’re cooked and getting more cooked. Point and laugh and act like this isn’t bad news for the world.

[-] masterbaexunn@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago

Voted for it twice. C'mon now. This has been a long time coming. Trump-phenomenon didn't happen overnight or in this last election.

And I'm not pointing or laughing. I didn't learn English because it's fun, I dreamed about living the American dream. I believed in the US. I grew up on GI Joe. It's sad actually. I remember when the USSR was the enemy and now y'alls UN vote is aligned. The US soft power has plummeted.

[-] halfempty@fedia.io 102 points 1 day ago

The G7 has been compromised. EU had best work without the US now. The US is now led by a maniac who likes Putin, and wouldn't blink at betraying all the US longterm allies.

[-] cabron_offsets@lemmy.world 46 points 1 day ago
[-] eugenia@lemmy.ml 5 points 15 hours ago

The US is led by Peter Thiel. Putin is there for convenience.

[-] FordBeeblebrox@lemmy.world 23 points 1 day ago

With a South African court jester dancing around to distract attention

[-] Litebit@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

A showman TV show actor Krasnov Trump and a S.African nazi court jester Elon... what could go wrong.

[-] HowRu68@lemmy.world 17 points 1 day ago

The G7 has been compromised.

Unfortunately, that's probably true for the whole world order.

I want to hope that the new one will be better, but oftentimes history tends to disagree with that notion. Yet I'll remain fighting for a better tomorrow.

[-] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 6 points 1 day ago

Unfortunately, that's probably true for the whole world order.

That's fortunately for us here down in the global South. Let the oppressors (which Europe also is to be clear) fight each other and leave us alone. Sucks for Ukraine though.

[-] Sgarcnl@lemmy.world 43 points 1 day ago

He needs to be impeached and the shitheads he’s put in removed.

[-] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 62 points 1 day ago

God fucking damn that rapist traitor and all the shitheads that put him there.

[-] HowRu68@lemmy.world 48 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I mean apart from the logic of sanctions, those shadowfleet boats are "environmental disaster" ticking timebombs. They are not very safe or seaworthy.

Some of them have extreme strange huge anchors, which tend to drag 100 km across the oceanfloor and mysterously break critical communication cables in Europe and so. Others have dubious highend technical devices on board.

Nice detail is that somehow they end up being owned by a Hong Kong Ltd.

[-] lemmyng@lemmy.ca 11 points 1 day ago

They're basically modern privateers - acting on behest of their leader nations, but with public deniability. Every once in a while I wonder what it would take for a Nemo-type character to show up, commandeer a submarine, and start stalking/hunting them.

[-] codessh@lemmings.world 1 points 22 hours ago

Nice detail is that somehow they end up being owned by a Hong Kong Ltd. - Riddick3001

Just out of interest, where did you hear that the boats from this shadow fleet are registered by a company in Hong Kong? There would be some irony if China would use this as the final excuse to take over Hong Kong, to "clean up the mess" that Hong Kong companies have been causing internationally.

[-] Mannimarco@lemmy.dbzer0.com 38 points 1 day ago

Just kick them out already, america can get fucked

[-] ghostrider2112@lemmy.world 21 points 1 day ago

Please keep us on the newsletter though so we can rejoin when the adults resume control

[-] wewbull@feddit.uk 3 points 14 hours ago

How are they going to do that when your democracy has had it's flesh picked off it's bones?

[-] ghostrider2112@lemmy.world 1 points 14 hours ago

Well, I needn’t remind you who has the most heavily armed populace on Earth. It’s just a matter of us all making sure those of us that know better convince those that don’t yet see. There’s just a fuck of a lot of them…

[-] wewbull@feddit.uk 3 points 14 hours ago

That military is a damn good reason to reverse this now before it becomes a military dictatorship. It's easier to resist now, while the vestiges of the old system still exist than when it's entirely corrupted.

Your checks and balances have failed. You literary have someone taking a chainsaw to government. Your judiciary have declared your president immune, and your representatives are silent.

Waiting for the next election isn't an option.

[-] ghostrider2112@lemmy.world 1 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

Oh, for sure, the next election seems like an eternity at this point. I’m doing my part, and always have for the most part, and will continue. I’m not saying it is entirely hopeless, but my current best hope is that the rumors of the people of Atlantis going to space, or having advanced undersea dwellings, are true, and that they come back to rescue us.

[-] madscience@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago

Trust is gone. At least from my perspective as a Canadian

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[-] match@pawb.social 8 points 1 day ago

we're gonna have to join as a legally distinct new nation

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[-] landshark4@lemm.ee 23 points 1 day ago

Please kick us out of the G7! Turn off our power. Tariff everything. Make us hurt - that is the only way we will get rid of trump. Once social security goes away people will finally realize what is happening

[-] ArmoredThirteen@lemmy.zip 7 points 1 day ago

On one hand yeah fuck the US we could do with being knocked down a bunch of pegs. On the other I worry desperate people are easy to control. It would create a very strong "us vs the world" vibe that fascists love to take advantage of.

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