France and Germany clash over ‘buy EU’ weapons (www.ft.com)

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[-] starlinguk@lemmy.world 22 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Berlin is right. We need weapons ASAP and if we have to get them from abroad (not from the US, of course) so be it.

That said, I trust Merz about as far as I can throw him.

[-] small44@lemmy.world 12 points 3 months ago

Msybe they should stop selling weapon to Israel first

[-] starlinguk@lemmy.world 7 points 3 months ago

The Germans are weird as hell about Israel.

[-] slowcakes@programming.dev 4 points 3 months ago

It's not Amazon where they will ship the product when you order it, manufacturers usually don't have massive stock piles and it might already be a long order queue. And if everyone is gonna buy, well then the price will increase, its better to invest the money in local production and infrastructure

[-] starlinguk@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago

My point was that they need to get arms where they can be produced ASAP. People think we have years, for some reason. Have you seen Trump's jingoistic remarks about NATO?

[-] cyrano@lemmy.dbzer0.com 19 points 3 months ago

They are both right. Macron is talking about not buying US weapons. Scholz is talking about cooperating with the UK, Norway and Turkey. Yes we should but European, but as a French general explained in a France 24 debate a couple of days ago there are certain items that we will need to buy from America in the short term as their are no European alternatives (e.g. P8 Poseidon, E3 Wedgetail).

We also shouldn’t rule out cooperation with Japan, RoK, Australia and Canada.

[-] F04118F@feddit.nl 6 points 3 months ago

Ackchually.. (adjusts glasses)

The E-3 AWACS is called Sentry and is the model that France and the UK currently operate. The more modern Wedgetail AWACS' model name is E-7

[-] cyrano@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 3 months ago

Thanks for the correction

[-] morgunkorn@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 3 months ago

archive link

[-] Kuinox@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago

What about an european news outlet (and not behind a paywall)

[-] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 8 points 3 months ago

The financial times is British.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Financial_Times

[-] Kuinox@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago

And UK isn't in EU. Isn't there a big EU flag on this community ?

[-] platinum@feddit.uk 10 points 3 months ago

You mean the community that's on the UK instance?

Also, there's already a community specifically for EU purchases

[-] Kuinox@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

That's a bit stupid to put an eu flag here then.

[-] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 months ago

That flag is used to represent the whole of Europe.

[-] Kuinox@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

While technically it's the Flag of Europe, it's associated as the EU Flag.
By using this, peoples will think it means EU, not Europe.

[-] mannycalavera@feddit.uk 1 points 3 months ago

Only petty captious people will think that. It's pretty fucking obvious what this community is about.

[-] tschesky@lemm.ee 1 points 3 months ago

"You proved me wrong the first time, let me come up with some other bullshit"

[-] Blaze@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 3 months ago

Are you really going to be against Switzerland, UK and Norway in the current times?

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