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[-] Lumidaub@feddit.org 100 points 4 months ago
[-] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 46 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Oh my god, I thought this was an Onion meme.

2023 too, and not a cherry-picked misquote.

WTF.

[-] OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml 55 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

The craziest thing is this (real) article doesn't address things like wet bulbs which can be fatal, and no amount of heat tolerance will change that.

So not only is it proof The Washington Post is class traitor garbage, but also that their journalism isn't even good

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 13 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

no amount of heat tolerance will change that.

Conservatives: "Climate change will be fine. Actually all this extra heat and carbon in the air will be good for the plants. You'll see."

Also Conservatives: "MAKE MORE BABIES! ONLY THE FITTEST WILL SURVIVE!"

Also Also Conservatives: "We need to conquer Canada and Greenland for... uh... reasons."

[-] bob_lemon@feddit.org 10 points 4 months ago

Heat tolerance will also not help against the increases in storms, floods and wildfires that are directly caused by the heat increases.

Summer being 110°F is not even in the top 10 of why climate change is bad.

[-] Deme@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

*Extreme WBT's

A wet bulb thermometer measures wet bulb temperature (WBT), which is a metric that always exists and can always be measured. It only gets bad when the WBT reaches an extreme value, as is the case for basically all environmental metrics. Saying that wet bulb temperature is lethal is like saying that temperature is lethal. Look out for temperature! I'm sorry for the rant so I'll try to keep this short, but "wet bulb" by itself in this context is an inane shorthand that lacks all the significant words and muddles the meaning of those words that are in it. Scientists talk about Extreme WBT events, because that's what they are. A less of a mouthful would be nice for science communication, but I don't want it to come at the expense of words losing meaning like that.

Heatwave is a nice and descriptive word for one type of an extreme temperature event. Cold snap is another one. I'm glad neither is called "temperature event" because that would be dumb.

[-] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 1 points 4 months ago

The problem with your rant is that the "extreme" label is applied by researchers in temperate climates and could very easily, and almost certainly will be thanks to Trump, be replaced by "tropical"

[-] Deme@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

An extreme value is always only extreme in relation to some baseline. For temperatures it's usually a value that departs far from the local average. With WBT it can also mean values that approach the limit of what the human physiology can handle, a value that is quite universal due to us all being of the same species. The body cannot adapt beyond the limits set by thermodynamics.

Tropical and extreme aren't mutually exclusive. +30°C in Antarctica would be both tropical and extreme. Both are used where applicable. A temperature can also be extreme without being tropical. No matter what Trump thinks, he doesn't have the power to redefine (let alone erase) words.

The wet bulb temp. in a proper sauna should get quite high, I don't have exact numbers but above 70°C or so (dry temp. 90°C, relative humidity 50% would translate to a WBT of 74°C). In most contexts that would be extreme, but not here.

[-] ashenone@lemmy.ml 51 points 4 months ago

Let's see if these experts can build up a tolerance to acute lead poisoning

[-] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 5 points 4 months ago

Or, more topically, exposure to raw sewage.

[-] rocket_dragon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 30 points 4 months ago

I'm gonna take a wild guess that the "experts" have air-conditioned homes and workplaces.

Make them live without AC for the entire next summer and let's see if their "expert" opinion changes.

[-] Lumidaub@feddit.org 25 points 4 months ago

They were asked these questions by journalists and they answered. Don't blame scientists for idiot media people.

[-] Tillman@lemmy.world 25 points 4 months ago

Fun fact, frogs won’t actually sit in the water, they always jump out when it gets too hot. Hilariously, humans are one of the few species of animals that will cook.

[-] Paddzr@lemmy.world 7 points 4 months ago

The test was around brain dead frogs to see if they'd jump out or boil to death... Not about functional frogs.

[-] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 13 points 4 months ago

Humans confirmed worse than brain dead frogs

[-] SynopsisTantilize@lemm.ee 2 points 4 months ago

RIP. Good thing I'm a bot. Otherwise I'd be embarrassed af

[-] Mr_Fish@lemmy.world 18 points 4 months ago

It's like shooting yourself with smaller bullets to build up a resistance to higher calibers

[-] exu@feditown.com 12 points 4 months ago
[-] zea_64 11 points 4 months ago

I used to go on 1-2 hour walks every day, the heat never felt less bad.

[-] Elgenzay@lemmy.ml 2 points 4 months ago

That's cause it keeps getting hotter

[-] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago

excuse me then why does it snow

[-] JusticeForPorygon 9 points 4 months ago

Step one: undergo a lobotomy

[-] GissaMittJobb@lemmy.ml 8 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

True? Yes, to a point. Climate solution? No.

[-] underrate170@kbin.earth 3 points 4 months ago

Truly top tier post

[-] EffortlessEffluvium@lemm.ee 2 points 4 months ago

I never would have thought Bezos was a Stalinist…

[-] Objection@lemmy.ml 2 points 4 months ago

I'd really like to know what in this image relates to Stalin.

[-] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

I was thinking they don't remember what Lysenkoism is, but do remember Stalin was involved somewhere.

Then they started talking about classical conditioning

[-] EffortlessEffluvium@lemm.ee 1 points 4 months ago

The old Soviet system was enthralled with classic conditioning, and Stalin tended to use it to shape society, although Lenin was more appreciative of Pavlov. 1984 is Orwell’s critique of Stalinism. It seems Bezos didn’t object to a classic conditioning editorial and it shows in his treatment of Amazon workers.

[-] Objection@lemmy.ml 1 points 4 months ago

Ok, I'd really like to know what this image has to do with classical conditioning then.

This pathway from A to B is so full of twists and turns, I never know what's going to come next.

[-] EffortlessEffluvium@lemm.ee 1 points 4 months ago

A conditioned non-response as a response? The frog that’s gradually boiled so as not to notice its impending fate?

[-] Objection@lemmy.ml 1 points 4 months ago

It's not a trained response. The story goes that frogs won't jump out of a pot of water as long as the heat is raised gradually. There's no classical conditioning involved at all (and the connection of "classical conditioning is Stalinist" is also quite a leap).

As an aside, I've heard that story isn't actually true, but it makes for a decent metaphor. There are other examples of similar things in nature, like weasels will hunt rabbits by doing a "dance" full of confusing motions all over the place as they gradually inch closer to the rabbit, avoiding the rabbit's flight of flight response.

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