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submitted 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) by RaskolnikovsAxe@lemmy.ca to c/canada@lemmy.ca

This is one sample visit to the conservative subreddit. It's an appalling example of the impact of disinformation. When you need to be reminded of who the enemy is and what they think, visit here. You will see that there is no gratitude or mutual respect, and there never was. There was never any concept of mutual benefit. And now, with Trump leading the cult, there truly is no depth to which they won't go, and no decisions from Trump that won't be retroactively justified.

These people are dangerous, and they don't give a shit about any alliances, friendship or partnership. And they control the levers of power.

Edit to add a screenshot. Not sure how to add more, but it doesn't get any better as you go deeper. What's clear is that this relationship is over, and we need to move on.

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[-] x00z@lemmy.world 9 points 2 hours ago

Lmao.

"My act of war is not an act of war. Your response to it is!!!" - Trump Sheep #15674

[-] dmention7@lemm.ee 1 points 1 hour ago

I mean, it tracks with their view of the Ukraine situation as well.

It also tracks with the general conservative mindset that the "in group" is protected by laws, but not beholden to them; while the "out group" is beholden to laws, but not protected by them.

Which all tracks with having the mindset of a toddler, free of any shred of empathy, where, until proven otherwise every other person in existence is by default just an NPC without agency or self-determination.

[-] kent_eh@lemmy.ca 8 points 2 hours ago

That subreddit is nothing more than an echo chamber. If you express an even slightly reasonable view, you get banned.

The only way for dissenting opinions to be expressed is with the downvote button, and even then most reasonable people avoid going there because it's so frustrating to read.

[-] AstridWipenaugh@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago

I used to read it to see what conservatives were thinking. There used to be actual discourse in the comments about policy positions. It's now nothing more than brainrot and Russian trolls.

[-] Randomgal@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 hour ago

All of these comments are severely downvoted. What are you every saying here? That one incredibly unpopular opinion represents them all?

Don't get me wrong, fuck them all. But this is such a stupid argument for your hate.

[-] hydration9806@lemmy.ml 10 points 3 hours ago

I'm confused. The screenshot you shared just has two idiots sharing stupid opinions and 1.1 thousand/389 people (likely from the same subreddit) disagreeing with them.

I'm not saying the conservative subreddit isn't unhinged, but this feels pretty cherry picked.

Maybe share a photo of the most upvoted comments for a better reference?

[-] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

If you spent time on other platforms like Threads you’d see a lot more of this being continuously spewed. It’s why I deleted my accounts on several services. While this might be a cherry picked example from that sub, the far right revisionist take is far, far more common on popular social media than you think.

[-] wieson@feddit.org 41 points 5 hours ago

This is actually classic fascist playbook:

  • We are the strongest
  • But also - o no - we are under attack from all sides, everyone is against us
[-] nectar45@lemmy.zip 4 points 3 hours ago

Seriously why hasnt reddit banned that subreddit yet? Is not like they ARENT ban happy in other areas!

But I guess fucking fascism is A-OK!!

[-] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 6 points 3 hours ago

Because it generates interaction and user count. Money before country.

[-] nectar45@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 hours ago

God I hate CEOs

[-] Phil_in_here@lemmy.ca 15 points 5 hours ago

I hope they skip ahead to the last chapter, the kys-in-a-bunker section specifically.

[-] epicstove@lemmy.ca 8 points 4 hours ago

If they're gonna play follow the leader they should play it right.

[-] Yerbouti@sh.itjust.works 8 points 4 hours ago

Pedo-Donald will try to annex Canada. For the first time of my life I'm considering getting a gun. We cannot trust conservatives anymore. Poilievre and mostly Ford are just playing the though guy card now to negociate a position, mark my words. Be prepare to fight.

[-] kandoh@reddthat.com 3 points 4 hours ago

Accept the annexation and in 10 years the entire US government will be run by Canadians. Just look at their entertainment industry, they can't resist our Canadian charms.

[-] Yerbouti@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 hours ago

Funny but I will die before anyone can call me an american, that I can guarantee.

[-] JPAKx4 6 points 4 hours ago

The only 1% these guys can be in is 1% posters on the conservative subreddit.

[-] Spookyghost@sh.itjust.works 12 points 6 hours ago

Cesspool, the question is what % are bots.

[-] spinhoser@lemmy.ca 13 points 7 hours ago

It has been interesting to see "Canadian Conservatives", some of them top commenters, get viciously turned on by /r/conservative while lamenting about how this is hurting PP and the Conservatives movement in Canada.

[-] leftytighty@slrpnk.net 13 points 6 hours ago

turns out an ideology that ignores real problems and always seeks out groups to villainize isn't a good way to make long term friends

[-] Guns0rWeD13@lemmy.world 3 points 5 hours ago
[-] crapwittyname@lemm.ee 17 points 9 hours ago

James O'Brien isn't my favourite talking head, but I do like his idea of having contempt for the conmen and compassion for the conned. These people have swallowed a lot of big lies and the fault is with the liars.

[-] prole 2 points 42 minutes ago

These people have swallowed a lot of big lies and the fault is with the liars.

These people are adults and are responsible for their beliefs and actions.

[-] crapwittyname@lemm.ee 1 points 25 minutes ago* (last edited 24 minutes ago)

100%
The difference is I would leave the door open for them to come back to reason, maybe even give them the benefit of the doubt. But the people purposely manipulating then are, I think, being forgiveness.

[-] kandoh@reddthat.com 5 points 3 hours ago

If they were truely conned sure. But most of these guys just thought the pain would be placed on others, not them. They're fine woth others suffering, but the tears start to flow when they experience anything negative at all.

[-] CorvusNyx@beehaw.org 1 points 3 hours ago

To some degree, sure. But these are adults with the capability and responsibility to think for themselves. It’s one thing to punch down on someone repeatedly for a mistake or being fooled, and yes, the majority of the fault lies with the deceiver, but these people aren’t stupid either. Trump and the rest of the Republican ilk made it clear what they’re about, and their actions speak louder than their rhetoric. If folks are foolish enough to believe him over and over again, the problem is just as much them as it is him.

[-] Kichae@lemmy.ca 8 points 6 hours ago

The con they got suckered into is American Exceptionalism, and it's not Trumppy that suckered them. He's a victim of the same brainrot.

These guys are reveling in it, and I have no sympathy for those that choose "we're just better than everyone else" as part of their core identity.

[-] Zizzy 24 points 9 hours ago

I agree that someone conned deserves compassion. You got tricked into sending someone money? Im sorry, even if it was dumb of you, im angry at the scammer.

But when you get scammed and the person who scammed you says theyre using your money for atrocious hateful acts, say making someones existence illegal, and you double down and say "well actually theyre right let me send more money, " you do not have any sympathy from me.

[-] HungryJerboa@lemmy.ca 4 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

Nono, let these morons suffer their consequences. I hope they don't mind learning Russian because they're going to need it to communicate with their new masters.

[-] crapwittyname@lemm.ee 6 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

You're 100% entitled (and right) to feel that way. But there are a lot of lies these people have been fed, often from birth, about for example white supremacy etc. that only education can really erase. Education is withheld by the same liars that profit from the hatred they whip up.
Now I'm not advocating for the softly, softly approach with them, I'm all for punching Nazis, and it's ultimately up to the individual what to believe. But these drones aren't the right target, it's the monsters that made them that way and hide behind them, the people in power advocating for e.g. religion and ethnonationalism to increase their power and profits. They are the root cause. And their first victims are these ignorant sheep forming a human shield around them. If I were to explain how much contempt I have for those people this would be a massive text wall that probably breaks Lemmy TOS.

[-] HasturInYellow@lemmy.world 13 points 6 hours ago

I get what you are saying, I do. But just allowing everyone to quietly go back to their lives after doing monstrous things is the reason we are here in the first place. After the first civil war, the south was treated with kid gloves as far as the enemy combatants were concerned and there was very little reconstruction. This was a breeding ground of hate and resentment. None of the issues were resolved in any way. This is essentially the same civil war.

[-] HungryJerboa@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 hours ago

Agreed. If America really wants to free itself of toxic bigotry and such an easily exploitable weakness, it needs to detoxify conservative ideology by targeting MAGA and far right voices that benefit Russia.

[-] garbagebagel@lemmy.world 28 points 11 hours ago

Wow, so glad this brave American here could teach me so much about my own country. Let me just call up my drug dealing ~~prime minister~~ governor and demand that he fix Canada immediately lest we face more punishment from Poppa Cheeseball. Thank you r/conservative, I'd be so lost without you proper Americans leading the way.

[-] cows_are_underrated@feddit.org 31 points 12 hours ago

Its funny seeing this stuff in r/conservative getting down voted as hell.

[-] lost_faith@lemmy.ca 7 points 7 hours ago

r/republican is no better. They literally spout the lies trump spews and believe them 100%

[-] PunnyName@lemmy.world 6 points 9 hours ago

It usually gets upvoted to the moon. It's infuriating.

[-] AlolanVulpix@lemmy.ca 99 points 15 hours ago

This is what happens when you have unchecked disinformation.

Let's prevent that from happening by not spreading American owned media pretending to be Canadian, that infiltrates Canadian culture and politics.

[-] HungryJerboa@lemmy.ca 3 points 4 hours ago

Ahahaha Canada.com? How much more blatant can it be that the site is American?

[-] Habahnow@sh.itjust.works 14 points 10 hours ago

For real. The issues occurring in the US are various, but the vast spreading of disinformation in the US is crippling. Don't let unchecked lobbying (aka bribing of politicians) occur in your country, don't let "news organizations" spread false realities.

[-] HootinNHollerin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 56 points 14 hours ago

That’s not America that’s r/conservative

[-] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 27 points 13 hours ago

So what the people in charge of America are telling the fascists to think.

[-] thefluffiest@feddit.nl 29 points 13 hours ago

Wouldn’t be surprised if this was Made in St. Petersburg™️. And American ‘conservatives’ just lapping it up

[-] freeman@sh.itjust.works 10 points 8 hours ago

The talking points might be, that supremacist US attitude is not. It's been there for decades.

Its not the Russians or Trump there is big part of the US that is hostile to anybody but their, imagined, version of America and places no real value on others even allies.

[-] thefluffiest@feddit.nl 4 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

That’s true, but Russia is also very good at exploiting the enemy’s weaknesses. They don’t invent propaganda whole-cloth, they play on dark sentiments already present and boost them

[-] formulaBonk@lemm.ee 5 points 7 hours ago

There is so few actual people left in that sub. It’s just ai comments and absolute staggering amount of Astro turfed propaganda

[-] nightwatch_admin@feddit.nl 38 points 15 hours ago

1.1k effective downvotes in r/Conservative, that’s amazing even for explicit libtard comments. If that sub isn’t swallowing your Drumpf Deitification, you’re really and utterly stone bonkers.

[-] IslandLife@lemmy.ca 23 points 14 hours ago

Lol, I've literally never seen that many downvotes. What a toxic sub though.

[-] iltoroargento@lemmy.sdf.org 14 points 14 hours ago

Sometimes, I wish I didn't have eyes... This is one of those times.

Jesus fucking christ. Like, if I typed that shit, I'd hope someone would put me in a fucking psych ward, stat. People need some fucking help.

[-] sfxrlz@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 13 hours ago

So wrong yet so smug

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