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[-] lugal@sopuli.xyz 137 points 4 months ago

"Fun fact": Mount Rushmore or Six Grandfathers was a sacred mountain for the Lakota to actively disrespect their beliefs

[-] carotte 86 points 4 months ago

other "fun" fact: the man who defaced Six Grandfathers, Gutzon Borglum, was a member of the KKK

[-] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmy.ml 44 points 4 months ago

Gutzon Borglum

I refuse to acknowledge this is a real name.

[-] samus12345@lemm.ee 24 points 4 months ago

That's a gnome NPC in WoW, right?

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[-] remotelove@lemmy.ca 100 points 4 months ago

The history of Washingtons teeth is uncertain. The evidence that those were slave teeth seems to show that the teeth were purchased.

Internet pictures with words are fucking dumb.

[-] Confidant6198@lemmy.ml 51 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Washington owned slaves. He was not some moral high ground individual. The only reason why they even got independence from Britain was that Britain wanted to stop the expansion of the territory and the people in the colonies wanted to continue it and kill all the natives.

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In 1784, Washington paid unnamed “Negroes” for nine teeth. We don’t know the precise circumstances, says Van Horn: “The president’s decision to pay his slaves for their teeth may have been a recognition on his part that teeth were something sacrosanct and personal.” On the other hand, being enslaved meant that any economic exchange was inherently not fair.

He literally took advantage of enslaved people to get their teeth and you consider it as just “bought”. Top tier cracker mindset. I guess that to you it was also fair for him to own his slaves because he “bought” them.

https://daily.jstor.org/were-george-washingtons-teeth-taken-from-enslaved-people/

[-] remotelove@lemmy.ca 37 points 4 months ago

I didn't suggest anything about his character, and we could probably have an entirely separate discussion about imperialism.

What is important is how you source information when it comes to dental prosthetics.

[-] Confidant6198@lemmy.ml 24 points 4 months ago

Oh please, criticizing the meme because “the teeth were bought” Is an attempt to save his caharacter. And then saying that images with words are all dumb. People can see through your attempt of white washing.

[-] remotelove@lemmy.ca 35 points 4 months ago

I don't give a fuck about his character.

You are making assumptions about my intent or what I believe, which is a childish argument tactic.

Again, internet pictures with words are fucking dumb. You might get a ton of likes on Facebook with that shit though.

[-] Confidant6198@lemmy.ml 16 points 4 months ago

Go on a seethe, cope calling me childish or whatever your manipulation tactic is, but your attempt of white washing is obvious. I am done talking to you.

[-] hime0321@lemmy.world 25 points 4 months ago

I only see one person coping and seething. Dude has criticism about a meme because the source is questionable and you just bitch and moan. You literally put word in their mouth.

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[-] remotelove@lemmy.ca 19 points 4 months ago

Lulz, wut? I called your discussion style childish and you literally just did the same thing again.

I could make all kinds of assumptions about your intents, and none of them good. But I don't.

[-] lath@lemmy.world 13 points 4 months ago

Wow that's such a dumb thing I didn't expect to read today. I can see why you would think so, but still... Wow.

[-] loaExMachina@sh.itjust.works 25 points 4 months ago

Internet pictures with words are fucking dumb

Memers in shambles right now. Webcomic artists, to shreds. Researchers who use diagrams with legends in their publications, pulverized. Journalists, atomised.

A child draws a picture of his father and writes "I love you" for it is the man's birthday. He posts the picture online.

YOU FOOLS!

Yells the mother, as she beats them both to death with a large brick.

In the halls of the United Nations, an envoy reads the latest finding of his commission: "I'm afraid every character of every alphabet is ultimately a drawing."

"But that would mean..."

"Yes, I'm afraid. Every text online counts as internet picture with words. Including the meeting reports that Stephanie posts on our site." Sound of typing stops, as Stephanie looks up, aghast The discussion resumes, the tone rises and descends again, a consensus is reached. It is a hard choice, but a fair one. All the lettered people are to be buried alive.

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[-] Cano@lemm.ee 85 points 4 months ago

Lincoln also commuted the sentence of 264 other Dakotans that had to be executed the same day. If he didn't intervene the executions would've been 303

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[-] SplashJackson@lemmy.ca 73 points 4 months ago

Not to mention defacing a mountain by putting a bunch of faces on it

[-] Goldholz 33 points 4 months ago

Not just a mountain. A mountain holy for native americans

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[-] duckythescientist@sh.itjust.works 18 points 4 months ago

Defaced then refaced

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[-] VeryVito@lemmy.ml 65 points 4 months ago

I understand the point, but as an exercise, try to find four historical figures without glaring character defects. Eventually, I figure we’ll all be either judged or forgotten in time.

[-] emeralddawn45@discuss.tchncs.de 17 points 4 months ago

These are a little more than character defects... theres lots of historical figures who didn't rape and murder.

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[-] bricklove@midwest.social 55 points 4 months ago

Not pictured: the giant, shitty looking pile of rubble under them.

They just blasted chunks off the mountain and left the mess behind

[-] DerArzt@lemmy.world 37 points 4 months ago

Also not pictured: that the mountain is a spiritual site for the local tribes.

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[-] Randomgal@lemmy.ca 53 points 4 months ago

This is why I find it surprising when USAians say "This is not us." When talking about Trump. No bro, it was always you, maybe you just weren't paying attention.

[-] atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works 47 points 4 months ago

As a Native American this attitude is so grating. People outside the US really don’t seem to understand that it’s 55 different states, districts, and territories, along with dozens of sovereign tribes, all being forced to pretend to be one nation. Many of us can and do claim “this is not us” in the same way many Europeans would say the same about Viktor Orban.

[-] samus12345@lemm.ee 15 points 4 months ago

"Why don't Americans just march on DC and take their country back??"

If I lived in Lisbon, Portugal, Moscow would be the equivalent distance of how far away DC is from me.

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[-] danekrae@lemmy.world 12 points 4 months ago

As a European, I think it's because of all the "land of the free", "we're #1", "the american dream" and "the american melting pot" bullshit.

Whatever that means when looking at history. It was only as an adult that I found out america is the villain.

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[-] dessalines@lemmy.ml 45 points 4 months ago

Seems like a good time to link the list of US atrocities

[-] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 44 points 4 months ago

All four of them carved onto a sacred natural site known to the Plains Indigenous people of the area as the 'Six Grandfathers'

[-] BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 40 points 4 months ago

303 natives were convicted and sentenced to death following the Dakota War of 1862. Lincoln actually commuted the sentences of 264 of those natives, allowing the convictions to stand only for those he believed personally engaged in the murder of innocent women and children.

Therefore, the last one is deliberately and intentionally misleading.

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[-] rational_lib@lemmy.world 33 points 4 months ago

Teddy Roosevelt never said "The only good indian is a dead indian." That quote is typically associated with Philip Sheridan.

A number of sources claim a similar quote (“I don’t go so far as to think that the only good Indians are the dead Indians, but I believe nine out of every 10 are...") alleged to be from an 1886 speech in New York, but this still goes against how he treated native americans generally and I can't find the original speech so I'm a bit suspicious of this as well.

[-] freebee@sh.itjust.works 19 points 4 months ago
[-] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 33 points 4 months ago

That would require the democrats to actually do something

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[-] Boddhisatva@lemmy.world 16 points 4 months ago

That's four of them. I rather think Carter was a good human being, regardless of whether or not you think he was a good president.

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 25 points 4 months ago

I can't really agree with that given how he treated Cambodia and supported the Khmer Rouge, as well as other crimes against humanity in the name of "opposing Communism."

[-] ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml 15 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Yeah but if you ignore some of the most heinous atrocities ever perpetrated he's a nice guy

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[-] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmy.ml 16 points 4 months ago

Read "The Jakarta Method"

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[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 15 points 4 months ago

My biggest complaint about Lincoln was the people he didn't hang.

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