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I've been using Linux exclusively for about 8 years. Recently I got frustrated with a bunch of issues that popped one after another. I had a spare SSD so I decided to check out Windows again. I've installed Windows 11 LTSC. It was a nightmare. After all the years on Linux, I forgot how terrible Windows actually is.

On the day I installed the system and a bunch of basic software, I had two bluescreens. I wasn't even doing anything at that time, just going through basic settings and software installation. Okay, it happens. So I installed Steam and tried to play a game I've been currently playing on Linux just to see the performance difference. And it was... worse, for some reason. The "autodetect" in game changed my settings from Ultra to High. On Linux, the game was running at the 75 fps cap all the time. Windows kept dropping them to around 67-ish a lot of times. But the weirdest part was actual power consumption and the way GPU worked. Both systems kept the GPU temperature at around 50C. But the fans were running at 100% speed at that temperature on Windows, while Linux kept them pretty quiet. I had to change the fan controls by myself on Windows just because it was so annoying. The power consumption difference was even harder to explain, as I was getting 190-210W under Linux and under Windows I got 220-250W. And mind you, under Linux I had not only higher graphical settings set up, but was also getting better performance.

I tried connecting my bluetooth earbuds to my PC. Alright, the setup itself was fine. But then the problems started. My earbuds support opus codec for audio. Do you think I can change the bluetooth codec easily, just like on Linux? Nope. There is no way to do it without some third party programs. And don't even get me started on Windows randomly changing my default audio output and trying to play sound through my controller.

Today I decided to make this rant-post after yet another game crashed on me twice under Windows. I bought Watch Dogs since it's currently really cheap on Steam. I click play. I get the loading screen. The game crashed. I try again. I play through the basic "tutorial". After going out of the building, game crashed again. I'm going to play again, this time under Linux.

I've had my share of frustrations under Linux, but that experience made me realise that Windows is not a perfect solution either. Spending a lot of time with Linux and it's bugs made me forget all the bad experience in the past with Windows, and I was craving to go back to the "just works" solution. But it's not "just works". Two days was all it took for me to realize that I'll actually stick with Linux, probably forever. The spare SSD went back to my drawer, maybe so I can try something new in the future. It's so good to be back after a short trip to the other side!

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[-] DarkDarkHouse@lemmy.sdf.org 64 points 1 day ago

My main issue with Windows isn’t its technology, but its attitude. The user is no longer the most important consideration. In that way it’s become adversarial.

[-] bhamlin@lemmy.world 21 points 1 day ago

Yes. I prefer my os to be more passively adversarial. Like Gentoo. It hates everything equally.

[-] nyan@sh.itjust.works 2 points 22 hours ago

Eh, Gentoo is pretty quiet most of the time once you've got it installed. After that, you just have to keep an eye on it and make sure it doesn't go off its meds (although once every few years, it will come up with a weird and wonderful way of doing so that you can't block.)

[-] Thorned_Rose@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 day ago

Now I'm imagining an angry Gentoo penguin snapping at fingers any time someone wants to use their PC 😅

[-] DarkDarkHouse@lemmy.sdf.org 6 points 1 day ago

All operating systems suck, some just suck harder than others.

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[-] spaghettiwestern@sh.itjust.works 61 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I just reinstalled and configured Windows for a friend who's machine was hacked, so my frustration with Microsoft is very fresh. (She lost 8 thousand dollars of her savings she's still trying to get back.) After years of using Linux I feel like I'm being punished every time I help someone with their Windows machine.

/Rant

These things in particular drive me nuts:

  • Sending everything users do and type (including passwords) back to Microsoft. It's called spyware when other companies do it. It should be called spyware when it's an OS called Microsoft Windows.
  • Flooding 1/2 the screen with web search results when a search is done from the start menu. I'm looking for an installed program, not a potato recipe.
  • Requiring a registry edit to turn that web search off and lots of other simple things that use to be configurable in settings.
  • Placing ads throughout the operating system and making it difficult to turn those ads off.
  • Forcing the use of the Edge browser no matter what users choose.
  • Preventing the removal of unwanted programs without editing the registry.
  • Forced updates at Microsoft's convenience.
  • Absurdly long restart times after updating.
  • Forced OS version upgrades.
  • Reverting settings that have been changed by the user to settings that directly benefit Microsoft's sales and marketing goals.
  • Forced restarts of the operating system causing data loss and the loss of millions of hours of work for millions of users.
  • Removing more and more user settings with each new OS release.
  • Burying commonly used menu items multiple menus deep.
  • Preventing the removal of Start menu items. I will never use the Xbox Game Bar no matter how many time I'm forced to see it.

/

[-] Sarcasmo220@lemmy.ml 14 points 1 day ago

That sucks about your friend. I can relate.

Scammers hacked my elderly mother on her windows laptop. They tricked her with an ad saying there was a problem with her computer, and they had her install remote access software. She mentioned seeing the terminal so I assumed they installed (at least) a keylogger. Luckily, they either ran out of time, or their con took two days, but they said they were going to call my mom the next day and have her log in to the bank to make sure her computer was still working.

So, I wiped her computer and installed Linux Mint with auto updates set up. She only had one simple question about logging in to google chrome and that's been it for the last month. She has just been using it no problem.

Side note: The next day the scammers had the nerve to call my mom and ask her why her computer was turned off.

My friend got a call from "Best Buy" technical support saying they'd noticed her computer was slow and followed their instructions to set up remote access. Unfortunately she didn't realize that there was anything to be worried about. It wasn't until months later when she left the computer on and unattended that the scammers took control. Fidelity wired the money out of her account before she saw the notification and Fidelity has been jerking her around ever since. She's still badly shaken.

I'd put her on Mint, but as much as I enjoy her company I don't want to be permanent tech support for her computer.

[-] lud@lemm.ee 19 points 1 day ago

Sending everything users do and type (including passwords) back to Microsoft. It's called spyware when other companies do it.

Do you have any proof that Microsoft keylogs you? That's quite a serious claim.

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[-] muhyb@programming.dev 106 points 1 day ago

Well, Windows was never perfect. People just got used to its shenanigans. They tend to meddle with bullshit registry yet somehow basic commands on Linux is too complicated.

[-] TwanHE@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

That's true, never thought about how many times Ive used the registry to do something when the ui doesn't work, eg forcing games into exclusive fullscreen or getting acces to old features in the Nvidia control panel.

Still my gaming pc "needs" to be windows because of the games i play. Either be it kernel level AC or not getting stretched Res + 280hz gsync to work.

[-] Reil@beehaw.org 12 points 1 day ago

Poor comparison, honestly. Only like 5% of Windows users will only have a vague notion about what a registry is and a fraction of that would have messed with it under duress. By comparison, nearly all Linux users are expected to learn a handful of commands with strange abbreviations and arcane symbols to perform otherwise basic tasks. That's not some unsubstantial barrier to be dismissed.

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[-] lka1988@lemmy.dbzer0.com 23 points 1 day ago

In windows' defense, the "complication" comes from the fact that there is no constant visual display of the filesystem structure in a terminal window like there is in the Windows registry.

That said, taking an hour to become comfortable with the terminal is not a difficult task. Understanding ~, and constantly using df -h and ls -al (for me anyway) will help a lot of people figure it out.

[-] BCsven@lemmy.ca 13 points 1 day ago

Yep, I have used Linux since 2017 after W10 just made everything slower for home use and work. I have been using W11 for work lately, and it sucks. The office16/root/vfs/ProgramFilesCommonX64(86)/office16/ai.exe and aimgr.exe keep hogging resources in task manager and bogging down the system when ever I try to get work done. Deleteing those files helps but they come back after updates, so for now I created two empty text files and changed the filename and extensions to match the deleted files, so far that has kept updates from reinstalling those ai files

[-] limelight79@lemm.ee 62 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I have an ongoing irritation with windows (use it for work, Linux at home): It steals focus from the window you're using if another window opens.

Drives me nuts. I'll be typing my password and pop! Oh look I just typed my password into something else that popped up because IT requires this program to run on login today.

KDE is much better about not stealing window focus like that.

[-] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago

Mac os is pretty bad with that bullshit too

[-] toddestan@lemm.ee 4 points 1 day ago

The sad thing is back in the Windows XP days Microsoft had the focus stealing thing pretty much solved. Well okay - I remember you had to install some of the PowerToys or make some registry edits to get at some of the settings. But once setup pretty much nothing could steal focus away from the current window, which was a welcome change from where we had been. That started to break again in Windows 7, and has gotten worse with every release since then.

Admittedly XFCE isn't perfect either, but it's much better behaved than modern Windows.

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[-] poke@sh.itjust.works 32 points 1 day ago

I dunno, I dont think it's normal to get two blue screens on a fresh windows install.

Windows audio really is trash though, I'm totally with you there.

[-] CrabAndBroom@lemmy.ml 2 points 21 hours ago

Yeah on my Linux desktop, it's plugged into the TV for watching shows, so I sometimes switch between the PC Line Out and HDMI audio. The Linux audio logic seems to be "I'll stay at whatever you last set me to, until you set me to something else", which makes perfect sense.

On Windows, it seems to be some combination of whatever device Windows thinks was last plugged in (which is very rarely what was actually plugged in last) whether it's an audio device or not, combined with the phase of the moon in whatever location Windows thinks it's in (which is also rarely correct.)

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[-] soyboy77@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Windows bloat sucks. I wish Microsoft gave you the option to just install the components/features you're likely to use. That way you could have an agile, minimal custom installation like you do in Arch.

[-] endeavor@sopuli.xyz 1 points 22 hours ago

I wanted to try the gamer windows distro. Aurora or atlas or whatever. Its install wanted me to manually get drivers. I wasn't feeling like doing annoying tech stuff and troubleshooting so i just got fedora instead.

[-] barret@lemm.ee 3 points 1 day ago

like tiny11?

[-] LettucePrey@lemm.ee 47 points 1 day ago

I forgot how terrible Windows actually is

Windows, while always shitty, has seriously gone downhill in the past 5 years. I'm looking to switch back to Linux myself, but I have an NVidia GPU that needs constant driver babying on OpenSUSE (my preferred distro). My current plan is to find someone who is willing to swap a RTX 4070 for a equivalent or slightly worse AMD card, and then switch back to OpenSUSE.

[-] just_another_person@lemmy.world 23 points 1 day ago

That's more of an OpenSUSE issue, as much as I hate to say it's not Nvidia. Fedora may work better for with the options available for non-free DKMS builds on kernel upgrades, but you'll always be battling the Nvidia side with newer kernels pack releases. The open builds don't work for display yet, so that's not an option anywhere.

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[-] TheRealCharlesEames@lemm.ee 22 points 1 day ago

I disagree, as much as I wish it weren't so. Compared to Linux from the perspective of this gamer, it does just work. I wish I could main Linux but I can't handle any more critical boot issues or significant reductions in framerate. Not to mention that I cant easily auto-wol my lg tv "monitor" like I could from windows.

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[-] houseofkeb@lemm.ee 18 points 1 day ago

It's interesting seeing the variety of experiences in this thread. I definitely had to fight Linux to get it setup and stable on my machine, but ever since then it's been rock solid in a way I've never experienced with a Windows install.

Windows has a mind of its own...and being at the mercy of their update cadence or w/e other nonsense Microsoft is pushing sucks.

Meanwhile on Linux, I've had two CPUs that have C-State/P-State issues (5900x, 1700x), some weirdness with my audio interface, and a GPP0 bug that interferes with sleep. All of them are fixed or managed on Bazzite now, and it took plenty of digging for docs/reddit threads but now it's rock solid.

On Windows, any time I've needed to deal with the Microsoft Store I run into issues that require registry fixes, uninstall/reinstalling various things, etc. Sea of Thieves and Forza Horizon 5 had issues launching as a result on Windows but not on Linux.

Ultimately, not being under the Microsoft gun is such a relief that the initial battle is completely put out of my mind. I've had some instances where I'll boot into Windows for games, or HDR/Atmos support more reliably for my living room setup, but they have gotten rarer and rarer over the past couple of months.

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[-] sibachian@lemmy.ml 16 points 1 day ago

i setup my old job with linux internally. never had issues. day i quit boss told me to install windows so he can find a replacement employee. sure.

3 years later. boss wants me back. they've had nothing but problems. but i'm not allowed to install linux again.

he says, "if windows didn't have so many problems you would be out of a job."

[-] nous@programming.dev 18 points 1 day ago

There is no perfect OS that just works for everyone. They are all software so they all have bugs. People how say an OS just works have never hit those bugs or have gotten used to fixing/working around or flat out ignoring them.

This is true of all OSs, including Windows, Linux and MacOS. They are all differently buggy messes.

Linux is the buggy mess that works best for me though.

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