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[-] Rin@lemm.ee 37 points 3 days ago
[-] banazir@lemmy.ml 10 points 2 days ago

Unironically, this is why RMS was radicalized.

[-] meme_historian@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 2 days ago

RMS: gestures at GCC and the whole GNU/Linux ecosystem Look man, all I wanted to do was to print this letter to my ma...

[-] gutter_angel@lemm.ee 10 points 3 days ago

i came across this explanation of it, haven't verified it directly but he seems to make good content:

https://youtube.com/shorts/ZX8OaZZDlM8

he says theres identification each time you print using the yellow ink, and basically is a counterfeit currency countermeasure

id kill to have a foss print setup though

[-] echodot@feddit.uk 4 points 2 days ago

It's a feature that can be turned on the confidential documents but I don't think it's actually on by default.

You can check for it anyway, just print a document then attempt to scan it, if it's got the track marks it will refuse to scan because one of the things the track marks do is block scanning, although you can still take a photo of it because the camera probably won't be able to see the track marks so it's not 100% secure. In fact it's largely considered an obsolete security method these days, along with pink flimsies.

[-] gutter_angel@lemm.ee 1 points 1 day ago

good to know, thanks!

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[-] Lettuceeatlettuce@lemmy.ml 24 points 3 days ago

I really hope Brother is telling the truth!

[-] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 11 points 3 days ago

Same. My printer works fine, and I recently replaced my toner (went genuine because I found a decent deal), so I probably won't need another anytime soon.

That said, I will no longer be recommending them until this is cleared up. I won't be recommending against them though, because I don't know of a better company, but I'll just recommend people go to their local library or print shop or something and not deal with having a printer at home.

[-] werefreeatlast@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago

I got a 4 acre lot on Mars that I'm selling for cheap. You seem like a gulli...great fellow. $10k. Its pretty cheap right now because people don't known the real estate trend yet. I'm taking amazon cards.

[-] qjkxbmwvz@startrek.website 3 points 2 days ago

But this is a weird thing to lie about


the only reason to implement toner DRM is to get people to buy your cartridges. But if your public statement is, "it's ok to buy off brand cartridges," then...well... that's kinda weird.

Not saying you're wrong, and they could be trying to have their cake and eat it too (court the anti-DRM crowd but also scare people into sticking with their toner). I'm just saying your snarky/sarcastic response seems unwarranted here.

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[-] MisterFrog@lemmy.world 27 points 3 days ago

I'm curious how this will go down in Australia. Seems like a pretty solid slam dunk refund, oh the product doesn't work as advertised anymore?

Cool, I've had this for 5 years and now I'd also like a full refund under Australian Consumer Law.

Motherfuckers.

(I don't actually own a printer)

[-] JackFrostNCola@lemmy.world 8 points 3 days ago

I imagine they have some stupid note or sticker somewhere saying "to avoid damaging your printer only use genuine Brother replacement cartridges".
Then all they have to say is "we patched a bug where unverified 3rd party ink cartriges could erroneously be used and cause malfunction or damage to the product."

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[-] x4740N@lemm.ee 7 points 2 days ago

Buy an ecotank printer, they're more expensive initially but that's because they actually make you pay for the printer

Ecotank's use liquid ink that you fill in tanks instead of cartridges

There's no way they can check the ink on ecotank printers

[-] Naich@lemmings.world 287 points 4 days ago

Oh FFS. Not Brother as well. I used to recommend them to everyone. Who is left with unshittified printers?

[-] nul9o9@lemmy.world 67 points 4 days ago

Epson inkjets with refillable tanks probably.

[-] Gullible@sh.itjust.works 87 points 4 days ago

Depending on the frequency of your printing, they can suck as well. Chronically clogged nozzles are maddening.

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[-] jaxxed@lemmy.ml 43 points 3 days ago

"You were supposed to be the one"

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[-] lefixxx@lemmy.world 59 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Brother losing all competitive advantage they had via reputation. Doing a very big 180 and reversing the changes and commiting to no do t his BS is the only way to undo this

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If Brother starts playing that game, they will lose. Why bother buying their considerably more expensive printers over those of HP if they are going to be just as bad in the third party ink department?

[-] qjkxbmwvz@startrek.website 21 points 3 days ago
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[-] obinice@lemmy.world 137 points 4 days ago

You were the chosen one! 😭

[-] 9488fcea02a9@sh.itjust.works 45 points 4 days ago

They had two things going for them... Decent linux support and non-shitty DRM ink/toner

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[-] Limonene@lemmy.world 171 points 4 days ago

In case anyone was thinking this applies only to inkjet printers: no, it ONLY seems to apply to laser printers -- the thing that Brother used to be known for. Where the article says "ink", they mean "toner". There is no ink in a laser printer.

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[-] themaninblack@lemmy.world 38 points 3 days ago

Et tu, frater?

[-] noxypaws@pawb.social 77 points 4 days ago

These motherfuckers are actively making tech as a whole less secure by destroying any trust the public may have had in firmware updates.

Urgent security fixes are gonna go unpatched on a lot of shit because consumers are seeing more and more firmware or software updates actively making things WORSE.

[-] SacralPlexus@lemmy.world 24 points 4 days ago

Definitely true. I’ve been putting off an upgrade of my NAS because they have randomly decided to completely remove the video streaming software that came with it when I bought it. So infuriating.

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[-] digdilem@lemmy.ml 47 points 3 days ago

Thats's a shame, I always considered brother one of the better makers of paper manglers.

[-] DirkMcCallahan@lemmy.world 142 points 4 days ago

It's like every company that wasn't complete shit just suddenly decided to...go to complete shit.

[-] surph_ninja@lemmy.world 57 points 4 days ago

If regulators don’t stop them from doing it, the CEO’s of publicly traded companies will get the boot from the board for not doing it. They have a fiduciary duty to be as shitty as humanly possible.

We need laws to stop this, but the politicians are all bribed not to.

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[-] ChiefGyk3D@infosec.pub 22 points 3 days ago

I really wish we had open source 2D printers like we have open source 3D printers. That could solve a lot of the problems I think as we could have an open spec to allow people to do whatever they want. My Prusa doesn't care what brand filament I want to use, just as long it can drive it, melt it, and lay it down the way I need. Also why is it my 3D printers are more reliable than my 2D printers most days?

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[-] RejZoR@lemmy.ml 82 points 4 days ago

Et tu Brother?

[-] Ghyste@sh.itjust.works 86 points 4 days ago

Brother used to be the good guys... Damn.

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[-] mp3@lemmy.ca 97 points 4 days ago

I suggest whoever has old firmware files to upload them to the Internet Archive (if they allow those).

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[-] oyzmo@lemmy.world 19 points 3 days ago
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Proton, Mozilla, Brother

Its not gonna stop there

😓

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[-] user224@lemmy.sdf.org 70 points 4 days ago

And once again the only available good tech is old 2nd hand.

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[-] NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 23 points 3 days ago

And this is why I'll never connect my working printer to the internet.

Taking a USB stick to it to print is annoying, but fuck this shit.

They're all horrible companies

[-] ftbd@feddit.org 18 points 3 days ago

What's stopping you from connecting it to the local network but denying internet access? E.g. via a firewall rule or separate VLAN?

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[-] wowwoweowza@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago

So… when there is some controversy over an article in Lemmy it gets the strike though? How did this evolve?

[-] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 24 points 3 days ago

If you read the article:

We are aware of the recent false claims suggesting that a Brother firmware update may have restricted the use of third-party ink cartridges. Please be assured that Brother firmware updates do not block the use of third-party ink in our machines.

So there’s no reason to leave an inflammatory and likely wrong title unchanged or otherwise without notation. The title is completely readable. I’m all for wrong information being flagged, and a strikethrough is a fine method of doing so.

[-] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 6 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

We don't know if it's wrong though, we just have a statement from the company claiming it is. Now it's on the community to prove it.

It's potentially wrong. I guess we'll see in the coming weeks as people try to prove it one way or another.

That said, the allegation that old firmware isn't accessible is easy to verify and very troubling for Brother if true (what are they hiding?).

[-] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago

There is no official report of Brother doing what it’s accused of. Only a couple people having issues with a few cartridges, no analysis of whether the flaw was in the third party cartridge or an actual firmware issue, but we should get out the pitchforks and torches and leave a completely unproven statement up? I completely disagree. There’s too much BS passed off as objective truth as it is.

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[-] Ledericas@lemm.ee 21 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

ink printers are total scams, you might as well use a printing shop or library to do it, if you are planning on printing large number of pages. we got a canon laser jet printer, only need toner cartridge, no subscription based models. we orignally had scam-epson.

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[-] match@pawb.social 33 points 4 days ago

anyone know about jailbreaking printers

[-] caseyweederman@lemmy.ca 36 points 4 days ago

It absolutely baffles me that there isn't a huge custom printer firmware movement.

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