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[-] Kongar@lemmy.dbzer0.com 74 points 1 day ago

Their insistence on sueing the world of emulation ensures I’ll never buy another Nintendo console ever again. (And I’ve bought all of them so far). Their actions cause the opposite effect of what they want - they are creating pirates.

[-] NerfHerder@lemm.ee 16 points 1 day ago

Ha! I haven't owned a Nintendo anything since the NES. I've never given them a cent and don't ever plan to.

[-] cmder@lemmy.world 57 points 1 day ago

Haven't they admitted that they had no power to really take down emulation since it is legal?

[-] Stovetop@lemmy.world 43 points 1 day ago

In theory it depends on if the emulator is using any proprietary Nintendo-owned code. In practice, it doesn't matter at all because Nintendo can just out-spend any emulation group in legal battles until they give up.

[-] patatahooligan@lemmy.world 29 points 1 day ago

The DMCA takedown seems to be specifically about Ryujinx's ability to decode ROMs. Circumventing DRM is in fact illegal according to the DMCA so they appear to have a valid argument. However, in their takedown notice they assume that the decryption keys are obtained illegally. I'm wondering if the DMCA forbids extracting the decryption keys (without distribution) from your own legitimately owned Nintendo hardware for personal backup. If so, then the Ryujinx feature might also be defensible.

This also raises the question of whether an emulator could be made to work on already decrypted media and let you figure out how to do that yourself. Nintendo could argue that its main use is still to play illegally decrypted ROMs but the emulator would have a decent defense imo.

[-] zarenki@lemmy.ml 7 points 22 hours ago

Unfortunately, DMCA takes an extreme stance when it comes to anti-circumvention. Even personal backup doesn't have a strong legitimacy case under it, especially not when it comes to the tools that enable it.

Very related to this, LockpickRCM is a tool whose entire purpose is to extract your own Switch keys for the titles you own, and in turn is far more useful for people who want personal backups than those who are pirating the games. Still got a DMCA takedown two years ago, and though it never went to court it's extremely unlikely any court would have ruled in their favor if it did.

[-] nyan@lemmy.cafe 24 points 1 day ago

I expect the usual game of whack-a-mole will now ensue, with the main repository moving to a new host or changing its name (or both). People sometimes forget that github isn't the only game in town. Eventually either Nintendo will get tired or the code will end up on a Russian or obscure-nationality server that ignores DMCA notices.

[-] 5too@lemmy.world 8 points 21 hours ago

Honestly, does Canada have any incentive to respect DMCA requests at this point?

[-] nyan@lemmy.cafe 5 points 19 hours ago

We're not at the point where we want to burn every bridge with our southern neighbours . . . yet.

[-] JadenSmith@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 day ago

Too late! They're going to have to go after the Ryujinx sporks now. When will they learn? There's just too much cutlery for them to compete!

Can't wait for ByuBinx to release.

[-] NGnius@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 day ago

Just don't host it with a USA company.

(Self-promo: https://git.ngni.us/mirrors/Ryujinx is still up, hosted in Canada)

[-] yumyumsmuncher@feddit.uk 1 points 1 day ago

why not greemdev fork?

[-] autonomoususer@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago
[-] Dekkia@this.doesnotcut.it 3 points 21 hours ago

I agree in principle but using Tor won't affect DMCA takedowns.

[-] autonomoususer@lemmy.world 1 points 19 hours ago

How will they censor a Tor onion service?

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