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Hetzner (German company) is great if you need to host a simple website or an entire suite of services without relying on big American cloud services. (www.hetzner.com)

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They have German and Finnish data centers, as well as American. Pricing is pretty competitive, and unlike anything super autoscalable in AWS, it's predictable.

They offer an email service that comes with their basic webhosting service, which is a bundle that costs less for 100 inboxes than Google Suite or Proton for just one user, if all you need is email.

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[-] ragebutt@lemmy.dbzer0.com 34 points 2 days ago

Note that you can’t host plex servers from hetzner because plex decided that too many piracy oriented plex servers were being hosted on hetzner hosting and their solution was to range ban all of hetzner.

Fuck plex, Jellyfin is superior if only because some bullshit company makes decisions on behalf of users that don’t reflect the users needs but the fact that the company is perpetually trying to hide the fact that their products core feature is that it’s built around media piracy. Jellyfin has to do the stupid wink wink we don’t do piracy here because laws are stupid but at least they won’t stop you from using good cheap hosting, collect data on you to share with third party analytics and advertisers, or remove watch together

[-] valkyre09@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago

Hetzner storage boxes are also incredibly inexpensive, you can mount them on a smaller VPS in another datacenter (Scaleway for example) and still run Plex if you really need to.

I just switched to Emby with zero regrets

[-] boonhet@lemm.ee 3 points 2 days ago

I reckon you could also route plex running on a Hetzner VPS through a VPN and have the benefit of less latency between your storage and VPS, at the expense of slightly more overhead elsewhere (the VPN).

AirVPN is an inexpensive European VPN that allows port forwarding (not strictly necessary for Plex, but I believe you need it for direct connections, which perform better).

Or there's Jellyfin and Emby. Can I ask why you chose Emby over Jellyfin? I see the latter recommended more often, but I haven't tried Emby so no idea how they compare for real.

[-] lambchop@lemm.ee 1 points 1 day ago

Just jumping in to add that what has kept me on emby is the guide data for live tv available with a subscription or lifetime license. I like it and haven't had too much trouble, although currently emby theater for Linux has a UI bug they are still trying to work out.

[-] valkyre09@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

Honestly it was a coin flip at the time between Jellyfin and Emby.

I liked how I could change the media folder icons to my own custom ones and that was enough to experiment with Emby.

Did the usual spouse test, nobody really noticed a difference so stuck with it.

[-] SirMaple__@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

There's also OVH(Based in France). I use them over here in Canada and can't complain. They've been great.

[-] buyeuropean@lemmy.ca 13 points 2 days ago

Fantastic company - been using them for years. We also host the website with Hetzner.

[-] SorteKanin@feddit.dk 8 points 2 days ago

Writing from Feddit.dk which is on Hetzner :)

[-] yumyumsmuncher@feddit.uk 5 points 2 days ago

fuck them, I created an account and they were asking for a photo of me with a passport

[-] boonhet@lemm.ee 2 points 1 day ago

I think most reputable companies do that nowadays so if you host kiddie porn you can be held accountable.

[-] x00z@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago

I've moved to Hetzner after my previous hoster in the Netherlands decided to go full enshitification and almost doubled their prices in 3 years.

I've been enjoying Hetzner quite a lot. The panel/invoicing back-end is quite messy but the server quality and pricing make up for that. Support is also pretty fast.

[-] bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de 3 points 2 days ago

They had a really apologetic letter when they had to raise prices due to higher electricity costs. And still they were the cheapest for what I needed.

[-] paraffine@jlai.lu 7 points 2 days ago

Yup, excellent platform. We're using them for cloud, bare metal, and storage. We are in fact running a kubernetes cluster on their cloud servers. Been running for years, absolutely no problems whatsoever. I'm also using them personally and you can't find better pricing anywhere.

[-] MossWalker@feddit.nl 9 points 2 days ago

Hetzner is great! I have used Hetzner for a couple of years now and never had problems.

[-] Puschel_das_Eichhorn@lemm.ee 6 points 2 days ago

I have a question... Currently, I am running a personal email server on a FreeBSD VPS hosted at Kamatera (a company from Israel, of all places). I do consider switching to the cheapest Hetzner cloud VPS plan, but I need to be sure that the following requirements are met:

The IPv4 address shouldn't be on any major blacklist
I must be able to get reverse DNS for my domain
If possible, I'd like to run FreeBSD on my VPS

Can Hetzner provide this?

[-] boonhet@lemm.ee 2 points 2 days ago

I believe they do. People do run mailservers on Hetzner, they even have a Mailcow setup guide.

They no longer provide FreeBSD images but there's a workaround here that might work for a VPS as I believe their KVM console is for dedicated servers only but I can't immediately verify that.

[-] bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de 2 points 2 days ago

My server with email (from which I'm posting this) is hosted by Hetzner. I have reverse DNS, full control over the DNS entries, nothing seems to be on any block lists.

I don't know if they provide BSD images but you can boot every server into a rescue Linux from which you should be able to download whatever you need.

[-] IsoKiero@sopuli.xyz 1 points 2 days ago

I'm running email services on their VPS too. They block tcp/25 by default to every VPS, so you need to request opening of the port, but at least for me it wasn't any problem and I can well understand why they do that.

[-] LeFrog@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

We use them in our company and they have great support and are are very transparent. I can only recommend them.

[-] sandtoffel@feddit.nl 1 points 2 days ago

Hetzner is great, have been using their server auction servers for many Proxmox hobby projects. Just hoping we'll have proper Cloud contenders in Europe one day, to take on AWS / Azure / GCP.

[-] boonhet@lemm.ee 1 points 1 day ago

Those big players each offer hundreds if not thousands of niche, sometimes partially overlapping, services. What are the things that you need out of a "proper Cloud contender" that would allow you to ditch AWS/Azure/GCP at work?

[-] sandtoffel@feddit.nl 1 points 17 hours ago

It's not so much about me or my work, but many European governments and businesses rely on these US cloud companies due to the lack of proper EU alternatives.

[-] boonhet@lemm.ee 1 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

That's true, but at the same time, many businesses refuse to use those big cloud companies. Pricing can get pretty unpredictable if you have automatic scaling and an engineer fucks up a config or something.