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  • Mozilla is updating its new Terms of Use for Firefox due to criticism over unclear language about user data.
  • Original terms seemed to give Mozilla broad ownership of user data, causing concern.
  • Updated terms emphasize limited scope of data interaction, stating Mozilla only needs rights necessary to operate Firefox.
  • Mozilla acknowledges confusion and aims to clarify their intent to make Firefox work without owning user content.
  • Company explains they don't make blanket claims of "never selling data" due to evolving legal definitions and obligations.
  • Mozilla collects and shares some data with partners to keep Firefox commercially viable, but ensures data is anonymized or shared in aggregate.
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[-] capuccino@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

does this affect any fork of firefox? Like floorp?

[-] redlemace@lemmy.world 7 points 4 hours ago

Too late. That wasn't a typo, Terms are going downhill from here. I'm gone.

[-] Dave@lemmy.nz 26 points 10 hours ago

Mozilla collects and shares some data with partners to keep Firefox commercially viable

How hard is it to be specific? People are concerned about this, can they not tell us the exact data they share and with whom, or is doing so going to make people more concerned so they are avoiding telling us?

[-] CandleTiger@programming.dev 12 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

They can’t be specific in the legal note because that would close their options and prevent them from auctioning off every month to the new highest bidder.

They certainly could keep a page of what they’re currently selling to whom, but even if it was innocuous (doubtful) that would again put them in the news every time they changed it.

Tried and true ~~legal~~ PR strategy: say nothing and hope the attention goes away

[-] steelrat@lemmy.world 3 points 10 hours ago

Already uninstalled everywhere. Better luck next time, Mozilla.

[-] not_IO 2 points 10 hours ago

they were effectively owning everything you fo in firefox, how is that nothing

[-] Sturgist@lemmy.ca 1 points 8 hours ago

Anyone have a decent Android alternative? Updated my phone last night and this morning got a notification that Firefox had full permissions for accessing my location data. I'd like to move away from Firefox before enshitification is in full swing.

[-] flux@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 hour ago

Did you give it to it?

It can be a pretty nice feature for using map-based apps in the browser.

I haven't used such websites for a while and I don't see Firefox in the recent users of the location API, even though I use Firefox Android all the time. (Info available in Android under Settings/Location.)

[-] MacStache@sopuli.xyz 8 points 8 hours ago

Try out Ironfox. It can be installed through F-Droid.

[-] Sturgist@lemmy.ca 2 points 8 hours ago

Dope, I'll give it a go 👍

[-] Don_alForno@feddit.org 2 points 7 hours ago

I switched to waterfox. Looks pretty much the same, no issues so far.

[-] not_IO 21 points 18 hours ago

this is them rolling it back cause of the outcry, they don't want to admit it worked

[-] verdigris@lemmy.ml 10 points 14 hours ago

The terms were never actually bad. This is them responding to the backlash, yes, but that's just because everyone freaked out over nothing. They're not "rolling back" anything, and this comment is just more disinformation.

[-] Brumefey@sh.itjust.works 4 points 10 hours ago

The proof that even techies can confuse « rollback » and « fix ».

[-] killeronthecorner@lemmy.world 54 points 1 day ago

Too late, I switched to Floorp.

Because of privacy stuff? No. Because of repeated drama? Yes.

I don't have time for this stuff. I don't have time to track every minute twist of the knife that Google's funding drives Mozilla to embark on.

I'm bored of using software and watching it go through "death by a thousand minor dramas"

So now I use a web browser that has a name so stupid I don't even recommend it to other people. Brilliant.

[-] gunpachi@lemmings.world 2 points 7 hours ago

Try zen browser. It's just like floorp but has that Arc browser aesthetic.

I was a floorp user until I tried zen browser. You should give it a try too.

[-] JayGray91@fedia.io 1 points 10 hours ago

Never heard of this one before. too bad it doesn't have a mobile version as well.

[-] JcbAzPx@lemmy.world 15 points 21 hours ago

The drama isn't exactly their fault. There are a lot of rich organizations that want them to cease to exist. Most 9f which want track you online and/or shove ads down your throat.

[-] dnzm@feddit.nl 15 points 21 hours ago

A fair amount of drama is exactly their fault. Mozilla chose to increase management pay and fire people, Mozilla chose to flirt with ai, Mozilla bought an ad firm, and so on. It's not like someone was holding a knife to their throat.

[-] LazyingHarderThanEver@lemmy.world 3 points 18 hours ago

Truly an outstanding move

[-] victorz@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago

Floorp is a new Firefox based browser from Japan with excellent privacy & flexibility.

💀

[-] optissima@lemmy.ml 24 points 1 day ago
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[-] based_raven@lemm.ee 7 points 20 hours ago

What's the alternative for Android? Fuck Chrome I want to move off this shit onto something that actually gives half a shit about me.

[-] not_IO 10 points 18 hours ago

Boy have i got a treat for you, Ironfox! the continuation of Mull

https://gitlab.com/ironfox-oss/IronFox

[-] based_raven@lemm.ee 1 points 5 hours ago

Will check it out, thanks.

[-] limoncia@lemm.ee 14 points 20 hours ago

Fennec on F-Droid, which is Firefox fork

[-] Ibuthyr@lemmy.wtf 4 points 20 hours ago
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[-] Darorad@lemmy.world 186 points 1 day ago
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[-] doctortofu@reddthat.com 234 points 1 day ago

That's good and I'm genuinely glad they're trying to clarify it, but it proves yet again that their top management is out of touch with reality and their users: somebody (most likely more than one person actually) had to sign off on these changes and the message they sent out - this whole thing could have been avoided if they understood their users better (and/or if they actually cared nore about what users think).

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