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If you think things are bad now, then, brace yourself: it is about to get a whole lot worse. If you are alarmed at the speed with which the Trump administration has set about dismantling every institution of American government and every pillar of the international order, you must understand that this is not just the initial burst of activity, the “shock and awe” phase after which things will settle down: if anything, the pace will continue to accelerate.

The world has never before been faced with such a threat. The United States has handed the nuclear codes to a madman, a criminal, a would-be dictator and a moron, all in the same person. Whatever the purpose to which he directs these powers – to impress his dictator friends, to further enrich himself and his cronies, to seize absolute power or just to watch the world burn – we must hope for the best, but prepare for the worst.

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[-] robbinhood@lemmy.world 25 points 1 day ago

What's really got me sweating is the fact that we're living in sorta good times. A lot of people are struggling of course, and serious issues are unfolding, but imagine what the world could look like if we get hit by the next Great Recession or Great Depression. Things could quickly go from very bad to much, much worse.

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[-] helopigs@lemmy.world 30 points 1 day ago

the extent that Trump has gone to remove barriers to committing atrocities likely corresponds to the extent he intends to commit them

[-] PortoPeople@lemm.ee 112 points 2 days ago

This will end with blood in the streets.

[-] venotic@kbin.melroy.org 48 points 2 days ago

Yeah but who's? I have a bad feeling it won't be theirs, it'll probably be the vulnerable and the enemies of the MAGA.

The opposition to the MAGA cult can't just sleep for too long on letting them terrorize everyone's livelihoods since they've gotten the backing and enabling of their 'leader'. They won't sleep to upset everyone's lives.

[-] BlemboTheThird@lemmy.ca 52 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

it'll probably be the vulnerable and the enemies of the MAGA.

Well, it's starting with ours. It'll end with theirs.

Tap for spoilerDamn this is the edgiest shit I've said since I was in high school, holy fuck

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[-] rayyy@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

MAGAs are going to be hit hard with the cost cuttings and job eliminations. Sit back. They are the ones who are violent and they will take that violence to their source of problems when they wise up enough. It may take them awhile to work through the propaganda and bullshit though.

[-] futatorius@lemm.ee 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

They are the ones who are violent and they will take that violence to their source of problems when they wise up enough.

They're as likely to direct that violence at us as against their leadership. They're authoritarian enablers who want to be abused. Most of them will never wise up, let alone rise up.

[-] AA5B@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

That’s the whole point of starting off with scapegoats. “Ermagod, the transgirl trying to use the bathroom in another state raised the price of eggs”. Or of course “we’re breaking up families and sending children to concentration camps at Guantanamo because they’re criminals “ and even “Canada deserves it because we need to stop fentanyl”

[-] vonbaronhans@midwest.social 7 points 1 day ago

Will they ever wise up though?

Scoreboard shows these people, the most violent among them, are disconnected from reality and blindly trust Trump and his cronies.

I can't even get my MAGA mom to believe Musk did a Nazi salute. "Apparently he was throwing his heart to the crowd." Granted, she's not politically engaged, she just listens to my dad who stopped watching Fox News because it wasn't conservative enough. So yeah.

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[-] aaron@infosec.pub 64 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

The process of global de-dollarisation,much talked about, is being hastened far sooner than I think most people (at least those not privvy to whatever intelligence existed on Trump and others' motivations and intentions) expected.

The question as to whether the country with the largest military in the world can accept a much-reduced international role (and much reduced share of unearned global wealth to go with it), without kicking off a kinetic world war three will likely be answered shortly.

Trump and Musk appear wide open to exploitation/manipulation, without anywhere near the required experience or intelligence to maintain the US's international position.

Unstable times ahead.

[-] AA5B@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

global de-dollarisation

This is the real problem for us in the US. Currently debt doesn’t matter: that’s stupid and short sighted but it doesn’t matter. I’m not entirely sure what global de-dollarisation means but US debt is going to matter a hell of a lot more when we’re treated like any other economy

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[-] Tower@lemm.ee 34 points 2 days ago

The chuds at the top (most of them, anyways) know that this will likely lead to ww3, and that's been the plan. The US is the preeminent military power, so they feel safe, and there's a shit load of money to be made in war and instability.

The chuds at the bottom voting for US isolationism don't understand just how much an interconnected world benefits them and how bad dedollarization is going to be for them. But then that goes along with a lot of people not understanding the benefits of concepts like soft power, humanitarian aid, foreign assistance, etc.

[-] SkyeStarfall 16 points 1 day ago

If the people at the top's plan is actually WW3, then they're stupider than they let on.

Sure, in theory it's profitable, in practice though? All you're left with is a wrecked world that's worse to live in in every possible way, and that's assuming nukes won't fly

It's literally the broken window fallacy, which to me has always been a dead obvious problem. Stability, cooperation, and peaceful progress and development has always, and always will be, much more beneficial to everyone in the long run

These people are literally enemies of humanity

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[-] dhork@lemmy.world 20 points 2 days ago

The chuds at the bottom are rooting for dedollarization, because they put all their life savings into $TRUMP

[-] AA5B@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

Are they already that stupid? Maybe I give everyone be too much credit but I assumed the ones putting money into $TRUMP are wealthy people playing the patsy to launder bribes

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[-] drmoose@lemmy.world 31 points 2 days ago

And American still just going to whine on the internet and do nothing about it.

If anything this has completely vaporized the "checks and balances" democratic system everyone was so obsessed about.

Americans need to update the constitution where people have the power to dethrone a dictator as of right now theres nothing right?

[-] masterofn001@lemmy.ca 17 points 2 days ago

They already have it.

The 2nd amendment.

[-] adm@lemm.ee 15 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Ah yeah, my semi automatic hunting rifle is really going to stop the armored military and the drones, and the mass data collection. Me and 1000 other people sure will make a difference right up until they shut off the internet and mow us down.

[-] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 17 points 2 days ago

Tanks, jets, and rocket launchers are good against other armies. They're pretty shitty against anonymous civilians. It's why the US lost in Iraq and Afghanistan.

And in the US, the civilians would have 2 other advantages:

  1. A military that would be more reluctant to kill other Americans on American soil
  2. The enemy wouldn't be the military, but poloticians.
[-] adm@lemm.ee 3 points 1 day ago

We live in a budding techno-fascist police state. Your argument depends on anonymity. That is almost completely lost on the modern America. Hong Kong is one if many examples over the last 15 years. They'll find you. They'll disappear you. Sure. Buy yourself a gun and load up on ammo. It will do you lots of good when they break your door down if you actually prove to be a credible threat.

[-] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

People don't have to be part of an organized, traceable resistance when everyone has guns and the targets aren't military in nature.

United Healthcare lost its CEO to a random dude lone gunman while he was walking down the street.

The idea is to make everybody a potential threat to those who abuse power. But one side of the political spectrum decided that guns are bad and disarmed themselves, so 90% of the guns are owned by fascists.

[-] JacksonLamb@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

The US has way better surveillance of irs own cotizens than it had of Afghanistan. They will send Homeland Security after any militia before it becomes a credible threat to them.

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[-] ArmoredThirteen@lemmy.zip 35 points 2 days ago

I'm just hoping it can stay duct taped together long enough for me to get out of country. I don't know if it will :/ I've been doing the protest thing, donating to resistance efforts, boycotts, building community, been doing all of this for years. I've never seen it tangibly help and I'm one of the first to get black bagged if/when this goes full genocide (am trans). I can't do it anymore, my body is aging, my brain is a disaster. I wish I could keep fighting. At least I can bring my labor somewhere else and stop letting my taxes fund the madness that is the US government

[-] OutlierBlue@lemmy.ca 22 points 2 days ago

Thank you for doing what you can. It's the only thing we can do. No one can save the world alone.

I hope you get somewhere safe.

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[-] McLarny@lemmy.world 29 points 2 days ago

The american people will have to stand up for themselves and it‘s gonna be hard and brutal. Cause no one else can help you with this.

I found the recent developments in Serbia quite interesting and it might help to get an idea what a widespread resistance from the people could look like. Video on Serbia

[-] Skiluros@sh.itjust.works 26 points 2 days ago

It's going to require daily nationwide protests going on for months and months with national participation approaching 1-2% of the population (4-8 million) on weekends and clear and actionable demands (resignation of Trump and his goons and corrupt members of the judiciary).

From my experience living in the US, I don't think this is likely (I do hope I am wrong). Geographic size can actually be managed by having many thousands of protest sites by key admin buildings all throughout the country. The bigger issue is perhaps a lack of experience "operationalizing" beliefs and standing up to a thugs and oligarchs.

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[-] holdstrong@lemm.ee 26 points 2 days ago

If you want to know what Trump will do, look at the men he most admires (Putin, Kim Jong Un, etc)

[-] OutlierBlue@lemmy.ca 19 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

And Hitler. He keeps (or kept) a copy of ~~Mein Kampf~~ his quotes by his bed, and we all know how his neighbours ended up.

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[-] tabarnaski@sh.itjust.works 26 points 2 days ago

The only thing at this point that could prevent the USA from annexing Canada is a civil war to deal with. So yeah, it's gonna get worse before it gets better.

[-] OutlierBlue@lemmy.ca 23 points 2 days ago

And that doesn't seem like it's going to happen. For the most part Americans are complaining but not willing to actually do anything about the situation.

I've heard people say the US couldn't invade us because it would cause an uprising, but they aren't willing to stand up and fight for their own democracy. They won't stand up to fight for ours.

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[-] unemployedclaquer@sopuli.xyz 9 points 2 days ago

i guess i didn't really need free information about the weather or how fucked is the climate. i know it's fucked and seasons change. fuck science after all.

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[-] Sanctus@lemmy.world 19 points 2 days ago

Not if we actually stand up and all march to DC. Just sayin'. Nothing has ever been won by shit posting and staying home.

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[-] meowmeowbeanz@sopuli.xyz 8 points 2 days ago

Less hysteria, more substance—this article misses the mark.

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