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Gas stoves fill the air in your home with particulate matter (pm), which has been found to increase cancer risk in the long term.

So next time you buy a stove, consider choosing an induction stove.

Btw, gas stoves being better or faster than induction is a myth. They have certain specific advantages, but they are actually slower.

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[-] Tudsamfa@lemmy.world 13 points 2 days ago

Everything else being equal, of course electric and induction stoves are preferable to gas. I spend most of my life with an electric stove, no apartment I ever saw had induction, but I didn't particularly like the gas stove I had to use for some years.

But if you want the worst user experience ever, find an electric stove with touchscreen controls. What the hell, landlord, where did you even find that one?

[-] bss03@infosec.pub 6 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Having only cooked on radiant electric and gas, I gotta say I prefer the experience of cooking on gas, but not by enough to accept the documented risks, even if they are small. I hope at some point I'll be able to have an induction range top as my primary.

[-] Valorie12@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago

YSK: Everything causes cancer. Drinking water causes cancer. Living causes cancer.

[-] hildegarde 15 points 2 days ago

Yes, but...

Cooking itself also does this. If you are searing or frying that will also release dangerous particulates. Make sure you have and use a vent hood that vents outside the living space when you cook regardless of fuel.

I can say from personal experience of using every kind of home stove, that gas is both the worst and slowest. Boiling water for my morning coffee is fastest on induction, which takes about half the time as resistive or radiant electric, and gas takes nearly three times longer than that.

Though it might just be the american style of burner that directs the flame away from the center of the pan. I've not yet tried any other kind.

[-] Rin@lemm.ee 1 points 1 day ago

How lomg does boiling water with a good kettle take? It takes like 60s to boil water for me.

[-] hildegarde 1 points 1 day ago

What heat source are you using? In my experience induction about matches electric kettles.

[-] Rin@lemm.ee 1 points 1 day ago

In poland before kettles, we used to boil water using gas and that always took ages

[-] 7rokhym@lemmy.ca 89 points 3 days ago

The studies I read, there was no ventilation / exhaust fan. The point was that low income households using these stoves often don’t have proper ventilation and it makes them dangerous. I didn’t find much evidence that using them with proper ventilation is actually a serious problem.

Further, cooking releases all sorts of chemicals from incomplete combustion in the air if something is burning, as well as the toxic chemicals release from nonstick cookware at very high temperatures, so cooking without ventilation is bad for your health would be the message I’d take away. I find most people are completely unaware of the hazard.

[-] MIDItheKID@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

I'm not even sure I would call it "low income households", more like "older building/houses". Plenty of expensive apartment units are in old buildings (I'm looking at you NYC) without proper ventilation.

I own a unit in a co-op in a building that is over 100 years old. I have a gas stove. There is a vent on my above-range microwave but it's just a filter that blows it back into the room. I do a lot of cooking. I'm in danger.

[-] 7rokhym@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 days ago

Indeed. Charcoal filters are to catch some odours, the aluminum will catch some grease, but 'natural gas' is a whole lot more than methane, and think the same is true for propane.

[-] Nalivai@lemmy.world 19 points 3 days ago

With proper ventilation you can do everything, you can work with hazardous gases and nuclear materials, if the ventilation is sufficient.

[-] null@slrpnk.net 10 points 3 days ago

Radiation ventilation is fun to say

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[-] Krelis_@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Gas stoves without extraction are also a lot more likely to use a liquefied gas fuel (i.e. bottled butane/propane) rather than a plumbed in utility gas mains (typically methane) which makes a big difference in particulate emissions during combustion

[-] IMALlama@lemmy.world 15 points 3 days ago

Very few residences have proper ventilation. In the US, a microwave above the stove is common. Microwave often do have a fan function, but the vast majority don't vent outdoors. I doubt that running air through a very thin filter will do much good.

[-] CrayonRosary@lemmy.world 10 points 3 days ago

Even charcoal grills inside are fine with proper ventilation. So you're right, but your also not saying very much.

[-] GaMEChld@lemmy.world 8 points 3 days ago

Yeah I'm not sure what the purpose of the comment was. To convince people to continue using gas on the off chance it won't increase cancer risk? That's not a compelling reason to use gas. It might not kill me.

[-] desktop_user 2 points 2 days ago

it also emphasizes the importance of knowing how the items built into your house work.

[-] roguetrick@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago

I'm pretty sure the comment was to emphasize the importance of a proper working stove hood.

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[-] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 66 points 3 days ago

the maillard reaction causes cancer. I'm still not boiling my beef.

[-] RvTV95XBeo@sh.itjust.works 34 points 3 days ago

Photons cause cancer so I guess I may as well do nothing at all.

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Dihydrogen monoxide is a dangerous chemical 😉

[-] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 12 points 3 days ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)

Since this is the stove thread:

I had a pot of salt water overflow from boiling on a electric stove and now there is this tough ring of residue around the burner caked on and it won't scrub off. Is using a razor blade to scrape it off really the only option?

I'm worried I will scratch the stove top and the landleech will have an excuse to steal my security deposit.

Edit: thank you all for your helpful advice

[-] ChaoticEntropy@feddit.uk 14 points 2 days ago

I mean... paying for shit you damaged during your stay is kind of the point of a security deposit.

[-] Kit 8 points 2 days ago

Bartender's Friend or Pink Stuff should take it right off.

[-] mox@lemmy.sdf.org 9 points 2 days ago

*Bar Keepers Friend

[-] Baguette@lemm.ee 4 points 2 days ago

I legit used car polish once to clean my electric glass stovetop

Works fine as long as you work it by hand and wipe the residue off with a wet rag

[-] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

One thing I like about gas stoves is the ones with sealed burners are a hell of a lot easier to get clean-looking than the glass tops of electric stoves. They get nasty so quick I prefer the old-style coil ones.

For your problem I'd try soaking a paper towel in CLR cleaner. It's probably lime from the water and not salt.

[-] SkyezOpen@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

Magic eraser might be worth a shot. Melamine foam is the generic name for it and you can get a ton of it cheap. It destroys stains easily. Even if it doesn't handle the burner stains I highly recommend it for cleaning around the house anyway.

[-] 12newguy@mander.xyz 8 points 3 days ago

I've used a razor for really stuck on bits on our glass top stove, but this cleaner also seems to do quite well: https://weiman.com/glass-cooktop-cleaner-polish

For the razor, keep it at a shallow angle (I tend to go around 20 or 30 degrees above the stovetop), and keep a small amount of water on the surface. I usually have a damp rag that I wipe the razor and stovetop with occasionally during the scraping process, to remove the small pieces that come off.

Also, if you are nervous about damaging the stovetop itself, maybe try something only lightly abrasive and warm water, and let the water work it's magic. (I see you have already tried this, so maybe that isn't helpful :/ ) From a chemistry perspective, salt water shouldn't exactly leave behind an insoluble residue, but IDK what else was cooking in the water.

[-] thisbenzingring@lemmy.sdf.org 7 points 3 days ago

BarTenders friend is really the best for everything in the kitchen, but leaving some CLR on it overnight should break it down enough to clean up with a warm sponge. Calcium is probably the white stuff.

[-] CancerMancer@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 days ago

Nothing stopping you from using diluted lye / oven cleaner and wiping it off, just be very sure you take the necessary precautions. Do not breathe that shit in or let it get on your skin.

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[-] Branquinho@lemmy.eco.br 23 points 3 days ago
[-] troed@fedia.io 34 points 3 days ago

idk - there should be some very clear cancer statistics to back up such a claim between countries like Sweden (<1% gas stoves, all are electric) vs other countries then.

[-] ilega_dh@feddit.nl 44 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

One cause of cancer like this probably won’t be visible on a national scale, too many other factors come into play that will muddy the data

However, it’s not “idk”, the current science on gas stoves being bad for your health is quite clear. Not just cancer, but also for other lung-related issues like asthma: https://www.cancercenter.com/community/blog/2024/09/are-gas-stoves-bad-for-your-health

[-] troed@fedia.io 13 points 3 days ago

You're right - the report they link to here (Table 2 is good) makes that quite clear.

https://pubs.acs.org/doi/10.1021/acs.est.2c09289

[-] purplemonkeymad@programming.dev 16 points 3 days ago

We swapped out a gas for induction, it's amazing to be able to put the temp down below very hot. Also very responsive to power changes, and can wipe clean.

[-] Monzcarro@feddit.uk 10 points 3 days ago

I love my induction hob for all the reasons you mention. It is by far the best hob I've used - much better than gas - and I cook a lot. The only slight downside is ensuring you have the right pans, but they're widely available. My enamelled cast iron casserole pot works a treat.

[-] GissaMittJobb@lemmy.ml 24 points 3 days ago

It's completely baffling that there are people unironically still defending gas stoves in 2025. There's no discussion to be had on the subject any more, induction is superior and that's final.

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[-] PennyRoyal@sh.itjust.works 25 points 3 days ago

I read that running an extractor hood mitigates the risk a fair amount. Not completely, but enough that you shouldn’t worry if gas is your only option

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[-] Rumbelows@lemmy.world 22 points 3 days ago

Yes, a little bit… Burning any kind of fuel in your home is going to produce carcinogens.

But it’s really nothing to get too excited about, and cooking on electric is bullshit

[-] snugglesthefalse@sh.itjust.works 15 points 3 days ago

As other people have said, induction is alright. Way better than traditional electric anyway.

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[-] Kyrgizion@lemmy.world 13 points 3 days ago

The only thing I know gas stoves to be better at than other methods is traditional wok. But that's hardly a reason to jeopardize your health for.

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