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[-] markvandijk@lemmy.ml 5 points 56 minutes ago

What's the best alternative? This doesn't sound great.....

[-] something_random_tho@lemmy.world 11 points 2 hours ago

I’m switching to Librewolf. I don’t want ads in my browser.

[-] umbrella@lemmy.ml 7 points 3 hours ago

anyone up to date on how servo has been doing?

[-] RiQuY@lemm.ee 35 points 6 hours ago

This seems like a great time to install LibreWolf.

[-] Zerush@lemmy.ml 5 points 3 hours ago

Yes, but even more important to avoid sync with an Mozilla account, if you need the sync function (maybe Filen?) (Vivaldi has an own sync EE2E)

[-] wintermute@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 1 hour ago

AFAIK the sync is end to end encrypted

[-] swab148@startrek.website 1 points 1 hour ago

I just switched to Bitwarden for passwords

[-] anon@lemmus.org 1 points 27 minutes ago

That's the best free option, and possibly best option overall. I've been with them for about five years now and it's been great.

[-] umbrella@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 hour ago

i think you can have it sync to a self hosted server, also an option.

[-] kobra@lemm.ee 1 points 1 hour ago

Firefox sync is E2EE too (or at least can be, mine is)

[-] HappyFrog 46 points 7 hours ago

They've released an update, and I'm just generally confused: https://blog.mozilla.org/en/products/firefox/firefox-news/firefox-terms-of-use/

I fully believe that they didn't intend for it to sound so... all encompassing, but this update makes me even more confused. What data is "uploaded" to firefox? I just thought Firefox was the browser, not some website. Do they mean the services Mozilla offers?

[-] Auli@lemmy.ca 11 points 4 hours ago

Or why do they have a world wide right for anything entered into Firefox.

[-] domi@lemmy.secnd.me 24 points 5 hours ago

This doesn't make any sense to me either. Why do they need a license for what you type into Firefox if that data never gets shared with Mozilla?

I don't know a single application that you need to give a license to so they can handle your data locally.

[-] HappyFrog 7 points 4 hours ago
[-] rtxn@lemmy.world 19 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

We’ve seen a little confusion about the language

Tastes like "I'm sorry you feel that way"

The privacy notice document lists how each data type is used. It includes in-browser ads on the new tab page, AI chatbots, and "to market our services".

[-] HappyFrog 6 points 6 hours ago

I'm glad I use a fork, even if it much more unstable. Kind of want servo to become stable and someone to make a browser based on that.

[-] poVoq@slrpnk.net 4 points 3 hours ago

Igalia is currently working hard on making it easy to use Servo as an embeddable browser engine similar to how Chromium can be used.

The problems of doing that with Gecko, the browser engine that powers Firefox, is main reason why there are so few alternative browsers based on it.

[-] Zerush@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

Also because Blink is the best and most advanced engine. The problem of Chromium is only that it need to gut out the Google APIs before it is a valid base for an browser. Vivaldi does it, also degoogled Chromium and even EDGE (but in change filling it with a ton of M$ tracking APIs). The only alternative (Linux only) is the Konqueror Browser with the Grandfather of Blink, KHTML by KDE (German company).

[-] HappyFrog 2 points 2 hours ago

The problem of using blink is that then you give more power to google. They are the ones developing it, so they can decide what goes in it... cough jpegxl cough...

[-] grue@lemmy.world 5 points 4 hours ago

Kind of want servo to become stable and someone to make a browser based on that.

Maybe that's why Mozilla quit contributing to it.

[-] Kyrgizion@lemmy.world 49 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

God dammit, and just as Google starts enforcing manifest 3. Maybe it's time to stop doing this internet thing altogether. It had a pretty nice run but right now it's just a propaganda and compliance tool...

Bring back ham radios.

Ah shit I'm too introverted to use my voice...

Data packets through radio?

Btw: Rattlegram is a Android/iOS app that can convert text to audio, which you can then play over a ham radio. You can use encryption before you paste the ciphertext into Rattlegram. (Encryption over radio is illegal in many jurisdictions tho... 🏴‍☠️)

[-] AtariDump@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago

(Encryption over radio is illegal in many jurisdictions tho... 🏴‍☠️)

Unless the police do it.

[-] anon@lemmus.org 2 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

I was on the verge of deleting everything online, including my email address, because I'm with you, but at what point does the privacy movement start intruding on enjoyment of daily activity. I've accepted that my information will be had in exchange for a good product.

It's not exactly how I want to operate, but also, life is too short. Ultimately, I'm on the verge of using Mullvad Browser, Mullvad VPN, and probably getting my email hosted out of some small shared hosting platform somewhere.

I think about this type of stuff daily and it's just exhausting. The Internet has transformed into what we'd hoped it wouldn't over the past five years.

[-] Zerush@lemmy.ml 23 points 7 hours ago
[-] nomugisan@lemmy.dbzer0.com 31 points 7 hours ago

Capital is the problem, not nationality.

[-] Zerush@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

Yes, but also non existent US privacy policy. There the users are simply raw material for the benefit of large corporations and user rights an incomprehensible communist phrase, to make America great again. The EU at least put limits to these abuses.

[-] sanpo@sopuli.xyz 21 points 7 hours ago

That website actually promotes Firefox, you know. Not sure it fits this thread.

[-] pipariturbiini@sopuli.xyz 15 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

Also from the "European" recommendations, Vivaldi is Chromium, and Mullvad is Tor, which is Firefox.

[-] snek_boi@lemmy.ml 3 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

I’m really glad this exists! Thanks for sharing it!

[-] Perhapsjustsniffit@lemmy.ca 10 points 6 hours ago

And Firefox is no longer my browser. Tada.

[-] kixik@lemmy.ml 7 points 4 hours ago

do you mean you use a more privacy oriented fork like Librewolf, or instead some chrome/chromium derivative or fork?

[-] cheezoid2@sh.itjust.works 7 points 7 hours ago

So what’s the next best thing to use, preferably one that supports uBlock?

[-] dai@lemmy.world 3 points 2 hours ago

I'll be moving to https://github.com/schizofox/schizofox on my x86 machines.

Mobile will be a fork of Firefox.

https://github.com/LadybirdBrowser/ladybird is a project I'm keeping an eye on, will be a while off being a daily driver.

[-] smpl@discuss.tchncs.de 18 points 6 hours ago

Librewolf it comes with uBlock installed.

[-] HappyFrog 9 points 7 hours ago

There is only firefox, chrome, or safari to chose from. I just use a firefox fork.

[-] Auster@thebrainbin.org 5 points 6 hours ago

If you're sticking to Firefox-based browsers, Waterfox seems to be the fork closest to Firefox without being controlled by Mozilla.

[-] Zerush@lemmy.ml 2 points 6 hours ago

I use Vivaldi (EU), it has an inbuild adblocker. In chromium browsers Mv3 means that Mv2 Extensions are eliminated from the Chrome Store in June this Year. Mv3 adblockers are still there, there is uBO light (same as uBO, but without element picker) and Adblock Plus, which is pretty equivalent to uBO. The inbuild ad/trackerblocker (customizable with own filterlists or those from uBO, DDG, AdBlock plus and others) in Vivaldi isn't affected by Mv3 and pretty effective (>99% in the test). In extensions other than those related to security and privacy, it's irrelevant for the user if they are Mv2 or Mv3 and mostly redundant in Vivaldi.

If you prefer Gecko browsers, the only one from the EU is the Mullvad Browser (Sweden), which can still use uBO, but also Gecko Browser will not support Mv2 all eternity because the related different cookie management used by most webpages with Google APIs, also apart from the will of the devs to continue developing MV2 for a minority engine, such as Gecko (~ 4% Market Share).

this post was submitted on 27 Feb 2025
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