You're right, we should focus on Lemmy.ml instead.
They are not as extreme, but you cannot realistically have a civilized discussion on their servers. Unfortunately they are much more established with several big communities which are hesitant to move to more reasonable servers so while hexbear was an easy insta-ban for me and most other Lemmy users, we're stuck individually blocking ml users for now.
But hopefully because of the idiotic choice of the ml domain, they will eventually go the way of hexbear.
They are not as extreme
IMO they're just more subtle about it because they don't want a larger call for defed to happen, I'm sure they all have alts on Hex/Grad where they let out their..."restraints".
They're very quick to deride .world as nothing but a "Reddit 2.0 CIA front propaganda machine" and yet won't defed from it themselves....
This whole instance-tribalism seems very self-defeating to me. Why be decentralised if everyone ends up so boxed off that there are just a handful of isolated instance-clusters talking amongst themselves? It's like how email (SMTP) is decentralised but the mega-hosts act like a cabal, gatekeeping so strongly (and virtually doing blocklist-by-default for unrecognised servers - even of good standing) ultimately capturing the user-base by undermining the decentralisation. Luckily with DKIM/SPF/DMARC/ARC/etc and stronger anti-trust regulations email seems to be slowly climbing back out of that hole. Unfortunately with all the banal tribalism it feels like much of the new Activitypub based tech users are willfully climbing into that same hole, without even being corralled there by mega-hosts.
You would think so. But .world cannot help themselves from slinging their shit over the fence.
Their mods remove posts critical of .world for "harassment" but gladly leave up blanket insults against instances more left wing than them.
Lemmy.world seem to be more middle-of-the-road on many things while Lemmy.ml and Hexbear seem pretty intolerant to me
I think it was on Lemmy.ml that I saw someone have their posts deleted allegedly for spreading US propaganda or some reason like that, when all they had said was that the war in Ukraine was started by Russia invading Ukraine in 2014 (I'm pretty sure this is factually true and Ukraine didn't invade any of Russia until 2024)
.world has a Zionist rating website (mbfc) as their "allowed sources" list. Tolerance is very subjective.
Their mods remove posts critical of .world for “harassment” but gladly leave up blanket insults against instances more left wing than them.
boy you have an entire conspiracy theory worked up already.
wow
It happened to me when I called out the moderators for censoring comments pointing out the role of the DNC in the genocide of Palestinians, so I'd say it isn't wrong.
I'm pretty sure if we're excluding instances with troll farms or hosting illegal material, the map of Lemmy instances is still kind of a single amorphous blob, with nearly all connected instances being just 1 connection away from their blocked instances. These can't be defined as isolated instance-clusters. Lemmy.world users seem to always know what hexbear users are up to because of their federated neighbors, lol.
Lemmy.world users seem to always know what hexbear users are up to because of their federated neighbors
Nah, they think they know what hexbear users are up to because random folk make shit up and nobody calls them on it, because they're defederated.
Hexbear is also just straight up dead rn, can't see their shit til they secure a new domain
Regardless of whether you're politically left or right, I feel like the hexbear crowd is just tremendously unfriendly. Even when I agree with them, I usually feel bad reading what they have to say. Being unwelcoming is not a good strategy for proliferating one's politics.
they will quite literally tear you up if you so much as do an outside think, i posted one comment, and got banned immediately.
hahaha, for those who like to play along, it's always fun to check the moderation history of the user under the comment with the three dot menu when someone complains about bans. I actually lol'd when I saw the ban from lemmy.ml/c/chess.
Ok, some of these mod responses are gold:
Banned
KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com
reason: Multiple reports of genocide denial and encouraging suicide. Having a bad day?
Removed Comment based by KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com
reason: useless troll is useless
Removed Comment i do your mom for fun by KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com
reason: duplicate, low effort, juvenile, rude and worst of all not funny
Depends, if you're a Communist or an Anarchist and aren't being sectarian (except against, like, Gonzaloists that support Gonzalo and defend Pol Pot), it's very friendly. By not allowing liberalism, it ends up stopping endless arguments between leftists and liberals before they can even start.
Am I taking crazy pills? Last I heard hexbear doesn't even exist anymore.
Are yall so laser focused on feudposting you missed that piece of news?
hexbear
the wokes
Okay now that's hilarious
Aren't world the wokes/libs/whatever is the current pejorative
liberal is the tankie version of screaming woke at everything.
Source: you
Nope, Tankie is very clearly defined as "Authoritarian Communists"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tankie
Tankie is a pejorative label generally applied to authoritarian communists, especially those who support acts of repression by such regimes, their allies, or deny the occurrence of the events thereof. More specifically, the term has been applied to those who express support for one-party Marxist–Leninist socialist republics, whether contemporary or historical. It is commonly used by anti-authoritarian leftists, including anarchists, libertarian socialists, left communists, democratic socialists, and reformists to criticise Leninism, although the term has seen increasing use by liberal and right‐wing factions as well.
That's a dilemma, how to know if someone yelling everything they don't like is lib & woke is either a maga or a tankie
They're the reddit users that think reddit 2024 is too left wing.
They're the reddit users that believe the only thing wrong with reddit is too many ads.
They're the reddit users that think voting is an effective measure in a captured kakistocracy.
They're the reddit users that believe Biden is most left wing president in US history.
In short, yes.
They're the reddit users that think voting is all you can do to end fascism.
They're the reddit users that think if you question authority you must love the other party's authority.
They're the reddit users that think anything to the left of them must be ignored, and anything to the right of them is just misunderstood.
.world has more insufferable people than any other community, it has the most spots on my blocklist. I'd block the entire thing if it didn't cripple my hobby communities and some of the few good ones from it.
Tankies shit my pants.
Lol, the pro China, pro putin folks who let pedo-Don win the election are woke?
The only people who let Trump win the election are the democrats. We spent years telling them what they need to do to win, instead they chose to end covid protections, divert covid funds to the police, build Trump's wall, facilitate genocide, and other extremely unpopular policy.
They knew these policies were unpopular among everyone who might vote democrat, they chose to do it anyway.
Wait, what do you mean .World isn't Federated???
This thread brought out a ton of tone police lol
Memes about the Fediverse.
Other relevant communities:
