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I have problems with people who abstained. The hard thing is, how do you change voter behavior?

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[-] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 11 points 8 months ago

From my perspective, as someone who didn't have a vote in US politics and wanted you guys to vote to kick the can down the road until next time, but also understood the sentiment of those who didn't bother, it wasn't a belief that Trump would do any better so much as a loss in faith that the Democrats were who they claimed to be.

When hope dies, it might be replaced by despair, anger, and desperation, or it might be replaced by apathy.

And while that was going on, there was also propaganda going on where people were trying to push the idea that Trump would be any better. I don't believe that there were a significant number of voters who voted for Trump or stayed home because they believed that to be true.

Right now, it looks like the main conflicts about this I'm seeing on this platform are those with hope trying to rally the troops, while those with anger are mainly upset at those with apathy.

[-] spujb@lemmy.cafe 9 points 8 months ago

Well put. From this framework, Trump didn’t win. Apathy did.

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[-] fakir@lemm.ee 11 points 8 months ago

They were on the correct side of the value system, but could not bring themselves to agree to the tactical compromise.

[-] CooperRedArmyDog@lemmy.ml 10 points 8 months ago

Genuine question, why should I keep agreeing to a compromise that every time I look back has run farther and farther to the right and away from what my values are. You can say protest and advocate for change but when that happened they where shamed arrested and expelled. The railway union was forced into an unfavorable contract by the democrats. At what point is it that this compromise is less a compromise and more a pacification, and me lending my support to another right wing extention? Where is the red line? are individuals not allowed to have positions where if you support them they will not suport you? or even if you get enough of them?

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[-] LNSS@lemmy.world 10 points 8 months ago

My opinion is that Gaza was flattened under Biden's watch, as he sold Bibi more and more weapons.

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[-] Dragonstaff@leminal.space 9 points 8 months ago

Honestly? What is the actual difference?

Harris would stand by and allow a genocide while Trump cheers on a genocide? And you think Harris deserved my vote because she wouldn't be so gauche while being complicit in genocide?

You're welcome to that opinion, I guess, but spare me the smugness.

My honest question: Why are liberals so caught up about how Leftists voted instead of any issue that might have changed the outcome? Why aren't there daily posts about Biden waiting until July to drop out? Democrats are more obsessed with blaming the left for their failures than winning against the right.

[-] auraithx@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 8 months ago

As a leftist, I'm hoping the never-kamala types can rejoin the rest of the leftists in opposing outright fascism, thanks.

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[-] prole 12 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Honestly? What is the actual difference?

Well, as of now, at least tens of thousands of dead Palestinians and their families. You people claim to care about Palestinians, and yet you say shit like this.

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