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Notice how the state of Israel has nothing to say about this?
Nothing to say? The ADL defended Elon!
Holy shit. The Zionist part of the organisation has completely eaten the anti-hate part.
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That (nazi salute) isn't antisemitic at all!
For fuck sake.
My point was that while Independent Jewish leaders are calling for the boycott. The State of Israel on the other hand, is holding hands up with Trump like a tag team.
Pretty sure that was his point too
I'm pretty sure they understood your point... not sure you got theirs.
You’re right, it isn’t!
Zionism has nothing to do with Judaism. In fact, I’m pretty sure it is in direct OPPOSITION to Judaism, if you follow the fundamentals.
For a religion this old, you will find a lot of people with different ideas about the "fundamentals". There is a lot of Jewish scholars that reject Zionism and in particular in the beginning of the Zionist movement it was strongly opposed by religious scholars. They had to work quite extensively to create a "new understanding" of how to mix Zionism with Judaism, which over the time led to there now being particularly extreme Zionists, who claim to base it off of Judaism.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Zionism#Early_Jewish_anti-Zionism
That's because Isreal has been slowly co-opted by xenophobic right wing extramists under the guise of survival.
Always has been. Pre WW2 socialist Jewish currents pretty much all unanimously opposed Zionism.
So, a real group of Jewish Leaders rather than a Zionist sockpuppet like the ADL.
The salute is just a symbol of much larger antisemitic moves by Elon. It's not hard to find neo Nazis posting swastikas and the like on X and many Jewish users have indicated that reporting those images goes nowhere despite them being specifically enumerated as banned in the official terms of use. There's plenty of evidence out there that Elon is in fact a far right racist if not outright Nazi.
A rich white guy from South Africa might be a nazi? I hardly believe it!
Nazi salutes. He did it twice.
Hey, at least they called it "Nazi" and not something wishy-washy like "awkward", "problematic", or "Elon Musk salute".
Could you guys also scrap the ADL? They seem to have jumped the shark in defense of his nazi salute.
They just need to sever the ADL’s ties to Israel. It’s hard for me to believe it’s a NY organization when they parrot Netanyahu’s words and sound nothing like the voices of every Jewish New Yorker I’ve met.
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I know a good boycott to the oligarchs
Fun fact: "petit ami / petite amie" means "boyfriend / girlfriend"
Even more fun fact: the masculine is gender neutral, so it also means just "friend".
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In what let's call the Jewish diaspora there is a strong thread of fascism. The fascists currently (and for some time now) are in control of the israeli government. If the israeli people were not in support of such fascism they are doing a poor job of expressing it. Globally fascism among jews is not universal, probably not even a majority though I have no hard data here. Anecdotally among the Jewish people I know there is one rabidly fascist of the kill all the Palestinians ilk, a few who claim not to support genocide but will get loud and in your face at any criticism of it and many who are disgusted by it and will openly say so. Your mileage may vary.
I find it very on brand for these guys to simultaneously piss off Jewish people and Palestinians within just a couple weeks.
the thing with israel is that it's an anti-semitic state. zionism is an anti-semitic stance. also palestinians are also semitic. it's just… all so dumb
And evangelicals want all the Jews in the world forcibly exiled to Israel because they think that's the only way Jesus will return.
And those motherfuckers better have zip ties and guns if they expect me to put a molecule of my body across the Israeli border.
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