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I'm not going to sell a perfectly useable Model Y after a year just because the CEO is a cunt. But I'm going to tell everyone that he's a cunt with 30 stickers plastered all over the useless rear window
Sell it to who, Ben? Fucking Aquaman?
Good choice, no point throwing it away if it was too late for you to realize, but it's more powerful as a platform to disavow Musk and Tesla.
The US is collapsing and all I got was this lousy car
May every business that brings this man profit tank until he learns some empathy.
Anyone still driving a Tesla needs a bit of verbal abuse.
Maybe they just like the car. Not everything has to be political. Especially if they get it 2nd hand, the depreciation is huge. So someone could get a nice Tesla for great money. Doesn't mean they like Elon or support him.
Buying 2nd hand is greener and doesn't support him.
It does though, their most profitable (as in profit margin) businesses areas are the subscription based services and charging.
I don’t know about abuse but I do judge people with Teslas purchased in the last 5 years. Before that the completion was lacking and it was less evident to most people that the CEO is a cunt, but now even if you ignore Elon, it’s just a crazy purchase when all the other manufacturers have caught up in electric and arguably produce better vehicles with less issues.
The TSLA crash going to be glorious, can't wait.
Turns out that siding against voters interested in human sustainability, and pro oil extortionist conservatives bent on climate and human destruction is not a good EV marketing strategy. I have an MBA... AMA
Also doing a nazi salute in front of thousands of people with full blown media coverage.
WWII might be a distant memory for Americans, but most of Europeans have been to historical sites of Jewish genocide.
Its investment in the Cybertruck is of no help in the region, as the steel-clad pickup truck is too large and heavy for use with a normal driver's license and does not conform to road legality regulations.
I was not aware of this. Further reasons to laugh at Musk are always welcome!
Yeah technically it's a HGV, and you need an HGV license in order to be able to drive it.
Although apparently the other problem is that it has red indicators, because in the US they don't have separate lights for brakes and indicators they just flash the brake light.
Most cars have yellow lights for indicators and red for brakes. Even for the US having red indicators is at least uncommon.
No it's not. I see red turning indicators waaay more often than yellow ones.
You live somewhere with a lot of trucks? Most cars and suvs have separate ones, i don't remember the last time I saw a red indicator other than on a semi. I see a lot of people not bother to indicate but the yellow or orange is there.
Montreal but also lived in Toronto for four years. It's red blinkers everywhere, annoying as heck.
Not that many trucks, I guess. Are we talking about trucks only? I might be wrong then. Mostly crossover SUVs.
This metal blob goes against so many safety regulations in Europe, it is basically unfixable. And even then you would need a truckers licence to drive it, like the ones for big commercial trucks.
"Europe and the UK" did they move the UK to another continent, or did they mean the EU?
You know exactly what was meant.
You see there was this little thing called Brexit....
Oh right, is that when they moved to a different tectonic plate?
Oh I see what you're saying. Yeah, they probably should have said EU but it's a little pedantic to pretend you didn't know.
Welcome to the internet.
Yes.
So, I hate to be the breaker of bad news, but the UK has left the EU 🤷 Don't shoot the messenger
EU ≠ Europe
Europe is a continent. The European Union is a group of countries in Europe, no longer including the UK.
Maps like this are the only way my feeble American brain can process complicated European things.
The EU one has camo painted seas, so I needed several seconds for my understanding of "what is where" kicked in. I wonder how they got this stupid idea
This post unfortunately leaves out the all important Council of Europe (not to be confused with the European Council). 😉
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Read the comment. EU - maybe, but not the Europe,how do you leave a continent?
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This sparks joy.
Gimme cheap, simple and reliable EV with guaranteed 200km range and I'm sold. I don't need bazillion of cameras inside and out, I don't need glass roof, I don't need 200kW of ridiculous power I would never use, I don't need always online maps for a subscription fee and I don't need 20" infotainment, neither I need 3 zone AC with ventilated seats and ballsack massage device, etc. I just want a Dacia of EV market.
VW E-Up is cheap and really good
Microlino, Fiat panda grande, Renault 5, Citroën Ami and others. The smaller and more affordable versions are getting there.
There’s a little blue Honda EV I see at work. Looks smart as.
Any of those in the US market?
I've only seen Rivians and Teslas in my parts.
There's a lot more, but they don't stand out. Look at cars that don't have a radiator and if course a tailpipe.
You've probably seen a lot more electric vehicles than you realize. Almost every big manufacturer has them in their lineups at this point, just most of them are looking more and more conventional.
Take a look at the Honda Prologue, the Toyota BZ4X, the Kia Niro EV6 or EV9, VW ID.4, Hyundai Ioniq line and Kona, Ford Mach E, Chevy Equinox EV or Blazer EV.
There's also EV versions the F150, Chevy Silverado, and Hummer. Supposedly RAM will have an EV truck soon, too.
Granted there are fewer compact sizes than in European markets, but that's true of all vehicles, regardless of powertrain
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The fiat 500 e fits all that and it’s a delight to drive.
Coincidentlaly, throwing all this junk out makes EV's significantly lighter. And theoretically cheaper.
They kinda suffer from "the tyranny of the rocket equation" since so much of their mass is "fuel." Make it lighter, and they need less battery for the same range, which means you need even less battery to carry that battery around, lighter motors, less chassis and suspension weight for that, which removes even more battery, and so on.
This is not the case with combustion cars, where much of the engine's mass is fixed and gasoline takes up little weight.
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So Dacia Spring?
Good news everyone!
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Honestly people would have to be basically mad to buy tesla now, same with twitter etc.
I sympathise with people who starlink is the only option but yeah I'd rather go without.
Let’s get to 95% down in Q1 of 2025.
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