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[-] ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works 21 points 14 hours ago

So the last and final attempt to steer the United States from fuelling genocide failed.

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[-] jaemo@sh.itjust.works 312 points 21 hours ago

Hey does Pepperidge farms remember all the fucking morons on Lemmy urging not to vote for Harris because she was allegedly complicit in genocide? I sure as shit do.

Know what's gonna be objectively worse, 100% regardless of the veracity those allegations? The reality that they helped forge instead.

[-] SmilingSolaris@lemmy.world 49 points 15 hours ago

The point was to pressure the Dems into giving up on genocide. You wanna talk about "pepperidge farm remembers", I got one for ya

Remember when the Dems thought they could win while actively telling people who were anti genocide to go fuck themselves?

Hey, what's weirder? Not voting for someone committing genocide, or being unwilling to stop committing a genocide even if it costs you the election?

How does it feel that the only thing that Harris had to do was say "I will stop weapons to Israel" and she would of won?

You can't keep blaming the voters when the strategy was at fault. They knew they would lose votes. They thought they could court the centrists and liberal Republicans to make up for it. They were so fucking wrong. And somehow it's not their own fault for having the worst campaign strategy known to man.

Like, Christ. Y'all ain't ever gonna stop trying to blame leftists. You'll be up against the wall with leftists fighting for your life and you'll still be like "can't believe you didn't vote Harris". I can't believe Harris threw away the election over the continued genocide of palastinians. That's fucking crazy. Is that not crazy to you? You don't find it fucking insane that the Dems would rather a fascist state than stop actively committing a genocide? Cause that's the fucking Gambit they ran and look where we are.

Look. I'm pissed. Your pissed. But we are just people with no power. Same with all those voters you wanna complain about. All we have is the ability to yell and vote. And while I voted for Harris out of fucking fear, I cannot blame the people who yelled "I will not vote for you if you keep committing genocide" and were fucking CALLED ON THAT SHIT. What kind of monster gambles with their own base over a fucking genocide?

[-] MountingSuspicion@reddthat.com 35 points 14 hours ago

As a fellow reluctant Harris voter, what upsets me the most is that the numbers people have run shows that no, actually, genocide was not the deciding factor in this election, which is kind of an indictment of America itself, but regardless, I'm sick of leftists being blamed when all the ones I know STILL voted Harris and the data shows that it wasn't leftist that didn't turn out, it was centrists. Harris didn't have a voter base. Sure, some dems turned out, but she didn't actually inspire people to vote, and that's basically the only way dems win.

[-] zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 21 points 14 hours ago

It's because she has no message. All she could promise voters was stuff like "I'll give you a little bit of money to help you get a house." She was all flash and no substance.

[-] alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml 17 points 13 hours ago

*for first time homebuyers who have rented for at least 2 years without a late payment

Because there's nothing that makes a proposal more popular than adding means-testing.

She had a message, it was "more of the same"; when asked what she would do differently from Biden her response wasn't "Fuck this guy who spent the last 4 years doing fuckall, I would have defended abortion rights, appointed an AG who would have put Trump in prison and gone after Manchin and Sinoma, and any republican, a head of the DEA who would have unscheduled cannabis, etc", she said the difference was that she would appoint a republican to the cabinet.

[-] Krauerking@lemy.lol 15 points 13 hours ago

That promise for housing gets misquoted as well as what she actually offered was:
First generation homebuyers who no one in their family has ever owned a house, after paying rent in a government approved rental firm for 2 years could get up to $25,000. And stated starter homes would cost between $300,000 and $800,000 dollars depending on location.

She did have a point to ask Congress to pass legislation to slow people buying more than 50 single family homes.

This was lost to her wealthy advisors telling her to not go through with these plans as they would impact the investment opportunities of housing.

She barely even got to flash before the DNC tried to reign in anything that might change things.

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[-] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 11 hours ago

Remember when the Dems thought they could win while actively telling people who were anti genocide to go fuck themselves?

I do, and was downvoted for calling it out from my last account, and this one for remembering it.

Are these people gaslit or are they doing it for their favorite political celebrities who don't know they exist or care for them?

[-] SmilingSolaris@lemmy.world 9 points 11 hours ago

Anything other than concede to the left. Gotta protect that capital

[-] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 10 hours ago

Democrats love losing because it gives them more money as Republicans enact evil policies. "We can't stop them! ...unless you give us what's left of your paycheck! That's how we can stop trump! Your money!"

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[-] IDKWhatUsernametoPutHereLolol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

I think people overestimating just how much the average person cares about wars abroad. This applies to every country.

Those millions of democratic voters that voted Biden in 2020, saw that the cost of living keeps going up, inflation happens and correlates with Biden's term, and most people doesn't understand that:

Correlation =/= Causation.

Most of those 7 million Democratic voters that voted Biden but didn't vote Harris are probably thinking: I voted for Joe Biden and nothing changed, why bother voting

I doubt that 7 Million people suddenly cared about a foreign genocide (like when have the average civillian cared?)

[-] Bosht@lemmy.world 36 points 15 hours ago

Honestly not sure why it hasn't been suggested that the 'no vote' bullshit was a tactic to get Repubs the win. Sure as hell worked and didn't do anything to solve the issue, as we can blatantly see now.

[-] Not_mikey@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 12 hours ago

It has, it's been a conspiracy on lemmy for the past 6 months. Any time anyone criticized Biden or Harris for aiding a genocide someone would pop up and say they're a secret republican or Russian bot.

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[-] Objection@lemmy.ml 10 points 12 hours ago

It has, constantly. Anyone who disagrees with you folks is labelled a Russian bot who wants Trump to win. Even if they fall in line they were labelled that way, just for saying things like, "I'll vote for Biden but his age is a legitimate concern."

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[-] Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world 15 points 14 hours ago

Wasn't the idea to get the Democrats to explicitly state they were a anti genocide and promise policies to back that up?

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[-] Vivendi@lemmy.zip 8 points 11 hours ago

Same shit, different asshole? Democrats at least could've promised an end to the genocide but they collected the pay cheque from AIPAC instead

Ergo, they lost

It's That Simple™

(Don't @ me I'm not American, thank god)

[-] DogWater@lemmy.world 1 points 7 hours ago

I argued with them constantly. I think a lot of them were bots but whatever

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