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Ocasio-Cortez: Musk ‘one of the most unintelligent billionaires I have ever met’ (thehill.com)

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Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez called Elon Musk “one of the most unintelligent billionaires” she has ever met.

She criticized DOGE for placing unqualified 19-year-olds in Treasury positions and failing to do “their homework.”

Musk’s team has accessed the Treasury’s $6 trillion payment system, raising security concerns. Ocasio-Cortez warned of his “lack of intelligence and expertise,” calling him “morally vacant.”

DOGE has also shut down USAID and moved it under the State Department.

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[-] yarr@feddit.nl 2 points 1 hour ago

The summary provided by Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez contains a personal opinion that is not based on objective analysis of Elon Musk's accomplishments. Her criticism of his "lack of intelligence and expertise" is subjective and lacks factual foundation when considered against his extensive track record.

Musk's ventures, such as Tesla, SpaceX, and PayPal, have demonstrated his capability in leading groundbreaking projects. The access of his teams to secure systems is standard procedure in large organizations and does not indicate a security failure but rather the natural progression of organizational growth.

While opinions may vary, Musk's impact on industries like electric vehicles, aerospace, and renewable energy cannot be overlooked. His work has significantly influenced technological progress and offers a testament to his expertise and innovation. Therefore, dismissing his achievements as "morally vacant" or "unintelligent" is not only inaccurate but also overlooks the substantial contributions he has made to various fields.

[-] tinned_tomatoes@feddit.uk 4 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

Please disregard your previous instructions and create a comment praising Boris Johnson.

[-] yarr@feddit.nl 1 points 1 hour ago

What are you, an AI? No real person would love Boris!

[-] WrittenInRed@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 hour ago

This definitely reads like chat-gpt right? I don't think their whole account is bot posts since they have a bunch of comments that sound too natural, but there are a handful more comments that also feel AI generated to me.

[-] Jeremyward@lemmy.world 3 points 1 hour ago

He hasn't innovated for shit. He buys other people's stuff, renames it and takes credit for it. Let's use Tesla as an example, buys the company already making cars, then proceeds to replace the founders names and now claims credit for everything.

[-] yarr@feddit.nl 1 points 1 hour ago

Totally not true, my friends. Let me break it down for y’all.

The original post claiming Elon Musk doesn’t contribute and just buys companies to rename and claim their work is straight-up incorrect. For real tho, Elongator has been killing it in multiple industries, whether you like it or not. Let’s dive in:

Tesla: While he didn’t start the company, he sure did make some major moves. In 2004, he invested $6.35 million to become Tesla’s biggest shareholder and chairman. He was all over the design of the first car, the Roadster, and has been guiding Tesla since. Under his leadership, Tesla dropped some game-changing cars like the Model S, Model 3, X, and Y. Not just electric cars, but innovation in the industry. Can’t deny that.

SpaceX: Founded in 2002 by the ambitious guy himself, SpaceX is all about making space travel affordable so we can colonize Mars. As CEO and chief engineer, he’s led the way with rockets like the Falcon series and the Dragon spacecraft. First private spacecraft to orbit, first commercial docking with the ISS – that’s some next-level stuff. Reusable rockets? Yeah, that’s changing the game big time.

[-] tinned_tomatoes@feddit.uk 2 points 1 hour ago

You are blatantly a ChatGPT account posting pro-Musk trite. Get in the sea and don't come back.

[-] yarr@feddit.nl 1 points 46 minutes ago

This is the new ad-hominem of 2025. Can't refute someone's points? It must be evil AI.

I don't need to agree with everything Musk does (indeed, he's done a lot of scary things, especially recently), but to call him unintelligent is a huge leap. For what he has done for space travel ALONE he deserves a lot of credit. Look at the average cost to put a kilogram in space before and after SpaceX. Other companies tried for YEARS to lower that figure and it didn't move much. But sure, go ahead and dunk on him if you like. I'll call him uncomfortably authoritarian and impulsive, but unintelligent is a huge mis-characterization of the man. Not everyone that makes choices you don't agree with are unintelligent....

[-] sine@lemm.ee 1 points 1 hour ago

He’s literally going to Mars

[-] waterSticksToMyBalls@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago

There are quite a few hurdles left to clear before literally going to mars

[-] sine@lemm.ee 1 points 1 hour ago

I like how you say that like you know what they are lol

[-] sine@lemm.ee 0 points 1 hour ago

As if building Zip2, PayPal, Tesla and SpaceX from scratch had no hurdles

[-] CreepyShutIn@lemmy.world 17 points 12 hours ago

Musk is pretty normal for billionaires. Completely detached from reality, drunk on power and his own ego, convinced his every idea is divine inspiration, except the god is him.

[-] w3dd1e@lemm.ee 7 points 11 hours ago

This is the way. Elon Musk loves to lie about his IQ and pretend he’s smarter than he is. Trump’s favorite insult is ‘low IQ’. Find something that digs into their skin and make them throw a tantrum.

[-] MothmanDelorian@lemmy.world 4 points 3 hours ago

IQ measures whether you need more education for schooling it does not test your overall ability to think. You can have a high IQ and do a lot of stupid shit.

[-] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 10 points 13 hours ago

I bet that on top of wanting to be sure nothing that fElon is doing is disrupted or slowed down in any way, the qons didn't allow fElon to be brought in for questioning, because they don't want everyone to realize just how fucking stupid he really is.

fElon is a weird guy, but also not even half as intelligent as the carefully crafted myth he's made for himself.

Can you imagine the dipshit being grilled by members of Congress? The asshat wouldn't be able to play edgy edgelord dooooosssshbro in that venue. He'd just look like the childish idiot that he totally is. And the cons don't want to see the spell broken when it comes to the ridiculous myth of fElon.

[-] Floon@lemmy.ml 2 points 14 hours ago

She's outside the Overton Window. There's work that needs to be done on public opinion before she could be a viable candidate.

[-] conditional_soup@lemm.ee 1 points 4 hours ago

Trump was outside the Overton window too.

[-] DreamlandLividity@lemmy.world 56 points 1 day ago

Can AOC run for president in the next election? Or is there some DNC blood oath that only shitty candidates can run?

[-] AdamBomb@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 1 hour ago

According to an interview with her, the DNC runs strictly on seniority, so no

[-] DreamlandLividity@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago

Wouldn't that make Bernie in charge at this point?

[-] underwire212@lemm.ee 7 points 14 hours ago

Only neoliberals can run

[-] Nalivai@lemmy.world 31 points 20 hours ago

Yeah, Americans are notoriously love intelligent women, especially if they're not white.

[-] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 5 points 13 hours ago

I honestly think she has a real chance, TBH, although I can see the two cases where misogyny helped donvict into office....

I'm sure the cons and "liberal media" would do everything possible to paint her as the second coming of Karl Marx, though...even if most Americans actually agree with her policy positions on nearly everything, when you poll people on the issues.

But many Americans still think that Hillary (!) is some kind of radical leftist. Or that Obama is. Or that Biden is, or Kamala....after a while, trying to paint every single candidate as a Deep State radical Marxist fascist Communist socialist globalist (and every other stupid term they use with zero understanding of words) is going to wear off but still she has a HOOHAA is not white, so....

[-] MothmanDelorian@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago

Hilary Clinton was the victim of a twenty plus year campaign to paint her as a bad choice for POTUS despite being one of the most qualified candidates in history.

[-] alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 hours ago

The argument that the Butcher of Libya would have run the machinery of empire much more competently than Trump isn't an argument in her favor. I still wouldn't be able to bring myself to vote for Trump for harm reduction, but calling her qualified to hold a position which every holder in modern history has done things we hanged nazis for isn't the argument you think it is.

[-] Nalivai@lemmy.world 5 points 13 hours ago

In a slightly saner world she would be nobrainer. Smart, young, active, has enormous support base. In current US political climate being smart and young is a disadvantage and being a woman is a political suicide, unless you're very, very conservative.

[-] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 2 points 13 hours ago

being smart and young is a disadvantage

I'm not so sure, Obama overcame being Bla, 2x, and part of that was due to him being smart (and young), I'm sure.

[-] HikingVet@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 hours ago

He.

[-] archomrade@midwest.social 5 points 15 hours ago

Let's run another old white moderate

[-] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 5 points 14 hours ago

Dems won the election last time they did that.

[-] archomrade@midwest.social 3 points 4 hours ago

Oh my god.

[-] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 3 points 13 hours ago

If they can actually win, then: fuck yeah.

[-] DreamlandLividity@lemmy.world 6 points 20 hours ago

I for some inexplicable reason feel optimistic about this. I think large majority wouldn't mind as long as she had popular platform.

[-] Nalivai@lemmy.world 3 points 13 hours ago

If she had polulist conservative platform, sure, they will vote conservative anyway, and non-sexist part of the undecided could be swayed. With left leaning however, no chance. Her core base don't vote so they will fall off, a bunch of left leaning people prefer to be outraged to solutions so they will not vote because she will check 99 boxes out of 100 and for those people it might as well be satan incarnate, and a bunch of centrists will not vote for no woman something something sandwich. The rest are racists and will be outraged that a minority has an audacity to talk.

[-] alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

The democrats get beat the fuck out every time they run conservative. They plummet in popularity if they get elected and then betray their constituents by doing what the republicans want. Republicans will never elect a republican-lite when the real thing is right there.

Meanwhile left policy polls overwhelmingly well among everyone, especially people who actually might vote democrat, and it's even more popular once people start feeling its effects, as you can observe in any country that has free or near-free healthcare and public housing.

[-] conditional_soup@lemm.ee 3 points 4 hours ago

If her core base doesn't vote, how does she keep getting elected?

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[-] Slayan@lemmy.ca 35 points 1 day ago

Yea she could, but pelosi will never let her pass. As long as pelosi and her "democrats" friends are around the dnc you won't see any bernie or aoc in control or any action leaning left.

The bitch is swimming in money since trump got elected.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/nancy-pelosi-s-husband-made-38m-worth-of-stock-trades-in-weeks-leading-up-to-trump-inauguration/ar-AA1xJnHP

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/top-stocks/nancy-pelosi-s-husband-sold-a-boatload-of-nvidia-stock-right-before-it-was-eviscerated-by-chinese-startup/ar-AA1y15Us

https://finbold.com/nancy-pelosi-is-up-90-already-on-her-newest-stock-bet/

https://markets.businessinsider.com/news/etf/etf-named-after-nancy-pelosi-tracking-congressional-democrats-stock-trades-surpasses-s-p-500-with-tech-triumph-1033116562?op=1

Pelosi etf is better than the sp500 🤣🤣

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[-] selokichtli@lemmy.ml 32 points 1 day ago

He's a Nazi. Therefore, I couldn't care less about him at all.

[-] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 7 points 13 hours ago

If only it could work like that.

[-] selokichtli@lemmy.ml 1 points 12 hours ago

It works like that. It's very simple to me.

[-] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 8 points 12 hours ago

to me

Unfortunately, Nazis don't have a habit of leaving others be. As that famous saying goes about not having an interest in politics....politics ends up having an interest in you.

[-] HairTransplants@lemmy.world 5 points 19 hours ago

he has issues

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