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Come one come all to the Lemmy-verse! It's nice and cozy here, we do have some "bad parts of town" but you can do an instance block and not deal with them lol

For your memes we have !memes@lemmy.world if you like sciency posts mander.xyz has some excellent communities (communities=subreddits) like !science@mander.xyz and !biology@mander.xyz and for a meme science combo theres always the fantastic !science_memes@mander.xyz

You can also drop a shit(post) off at !lemmyshitpost@lemmy.world or hang out at !onehundredninetysix@lemmy.blahaj.zone (though you do have to post before you leave that one!)

There's much more around as well!

Obligatory, fuck Spez

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[-] ArsonButCute@lemmy.dbzer0.com 22 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Former tankie turned anarchist. Talk to the Tankies. Learn from them, they have points.

Engles is full of shit ("On Authority" is little more than a business owner complaining that people don't like authority, and using natural laws of the universe to justify its existence by diluting the definition of authority such that any type of power over anything is considered authority. While this is not technically incorrect, it is a gross oversimplification of what authority means) and is the primary basis for how authority is justified on the Auth left.

But when they tell you to read something, go read it. They shitpost hard, don't eat the onion, don't feed the trolls, but engage in genuine conversation *recognizing that you will never agree and using it as a learning experience *

edit: spelling error

[-] ArsonButCute@lemmy.dbzer0.com 26 points 1 day ago

I like to think of tankies as Anakin Skywalker in that scene on the Grass with Padme. Anakin is gently explaining his hopes for the future, the wonderful world he wants to build, but when asked if people disagree he says "then they'll be made to", revealing his authoritarian streak. To anakin, like the tankie, seems obvious that an ultimate authority is necessary to shepherd the people into their eventual utopia, by force if necessary.

Many recognize the goal of a far left state is to whither and die, but the tankie forgets that power begets power. A dictatorship of the prolietariat is all well and good until a well spoken wolf in the finest wool takes the reigns. Power does not corrupt; rather i believe it is corruption that seeks power, and like dragons those corrupted by power will not give it up, and will do anything for more.

[-] cm0002@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

This right here (I'm stealing it lmao)

I personally would love to see the fall of capitalism in my lifetime and the rise of "The Star Trek Economics" which IMO is a fantastic example of a realistic equal capitalism-free future. Not so perfect as to fall into the "Utopia that's really a Dystopia in disguise" problem, but still a future worth striving for.

All current or past examples of Communism generally involve the sacrifice of personal rights and freedoms to some degree.

ETA: As far as engaging with them goes, I did for a while, multiple times in fact. Once you go beyond their surface level talking points the Authoritarian in them comes out and they will not criticize China/Russia in any shape or form no matter how deserving.

It's really only been the last few months that I've actually been proactive against them because now I see the damage they do to the Lemmy-verse with their propaganda and misinformation.

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[-] Gloomy@mander.xyz 10 points 1 day ago

Yay for bringing up Mander :-)

[-] Khlo@lemm.ee 17 points 1 day ago

Wait, what's wrong with Hexbear? I'm new to Lemmy and read the code of conduct and TOS of Hexbear and it just seems like they're leftist? I was thinking about registering there 😅

[-] null@slrpnk.net 25 points 1 day ago

Lemmy can be a bit of a culture shock when you come from Reddit. If someone calls you a libtard on Reddit, it's because they think you're a leftist. If someone calls you one on Lemmy, it's because they think you're too far to the right of them.

[-] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 6 points 1 day ago

If someone calls you a libtard it's because they're an ableist POS, and probably a larping conservative.

The proper term for "centrists" from leftists is "shitlib."

[-] Jamablaya@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

And you wonder why your type are considered insufferable.

[-] Khlo@lemm.ee 6 points 1 day ago

Sooo are the users over at Hexbear considered libtards over here on Lemmy?

[-] bishbosh@lemm.ee 15 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Nooo the users on Hexbear are the ones calling others libs for being too far to the right. Though I don't know how prolific libtard is, just because of the ableism.

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[-] cm0002@lemmy.world 16 points 1 day ago

They are not actually left, they are authoritarian communists and will defend Chinas CCP and Putin as well as spread the propaganda/misinfo out of there. And if you dare post anything critical of them, no matter how many good sources you give or how factual it is they'll write it off as "CIA propaganda", remove it and ban you under their catch-all "Rule 1: Bigotry"

If you want to see more check out !meanwhileongrad@sh.itjust.works

[-] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 day ago

If you criticize the chinese communist party you will be labled a sinophobe on Hexbear.

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[-] bishbosh@lemm.ee 11 points 1 day ago

When r/chapotraphouse got banned they moved to what is now hexbear. If you didn't like r/cth you won't like hexbear, and lots of folks don't like r/cth.

[-] Khlo@lemm.ee 7 points 1 day ago

So here's the thing... im so new i have no idea what r/chapotraphouse is

[-] bishbosh@lemm.ee 10 points 1 day ago

Fair and valid, and I envy your brain. They were a shitposter sub on reddit, sorta based on the dirtbag podcast of the same name. They were criticized for brigading and dog piling folks they disagreed with, and largely have a mentality of treating what they see as bad faith with mockery.

All that being said, if you think memes about China taking over the US is funny, they are a fun, active community. Though using it as your primary instance can be a big of a difficulty because lots of other instances block them.

Really I've found lemm.ee to be a good home, and you can still see all the posts there and see if it clicks for you.

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[-] VARXBLE@lemmy.dbzer0.com 25 points 1 day ago

These posts are so fucking cringe lol. Its always the same guy posting them.

[-] surph_ninja@lemmy.world 19 points 1 day ago

Can someone explain like I’m 5 how being against Nazis and capitalism is authoritarian bootlicking? Seems like the exact opposite.

[-] cm0002@lemmy.world 25 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Authoritarianism isn't exclusive to capitalism. You can have a communist country that is Authoritarian, like China or Russia. But they will fervently deny that China and Russia are Authoritarian, the various human rights abuses and lack of freedom at their feet in order to promote Authoritarian style Communism

They are against Nazis, but they apply that label to just about everyone who is against their views and/or what China/Russia pushes. They will say that Ukraine is completely run by Nazis for example, a propaganda line right out of Moscow.

[-] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

a communist country ... like China or Russia.

lmao. Both extremely capitalist: money, wage labor, private property, classes, etc. Read a book.

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[-] blind3rdeye@lemm.ee 37 points 1 day ago

For awhile I thought that there were stacks of people on lemmy.world constantly complaining about tankies. But now I'm starting to realise that most of the posts are from this one dude, cm0002. Frankly, it's a little bit weird.

[-] serfraser@sopuli.xyz 19 points 1 day ago

Watching him 'help' the fediverse grow by constantly trying to divide and ostracise people would be ironic if it wasn't so obviously dumb

[-] ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 day ago

This whole topic has been the crusade of like two or three people.

The result is mostly just a fourth person being able to post shit like breibart without harassment.

Lemmy is still rather small.

[-] VARXBLE@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 1 day ago

Yeah its pretty pathetic.

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[-] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

[-] sexy_peach@feddit.org 16 points 1 day ago

I was on Lemmy when lemmy.ml was the biggest server and I'm glad that despite the biggest server being tankie nominated Lemmy could grow into what it is today.