There's direct proof, though! Men have one fewer ribs on one side, and women have a full set of ribs because none of their's was stolen.
Oh, wait. None of that is true. But words written in paper wouldn't lie!
words written on a screen are even better!
If I see words written on a screen, I'm taking the crayons away from my kid.
Iirc, for those interested, it's actually a mistranslation of the original Hebrew term.
The original term is tzelas, which is a bit ambiguous.
It could be rib, but no real way of knowing.
https://www.reddit.com/r/AskHistorians/comments/1321fhe/comment/ji30zz0/
Why would an omnipotent, omnipresent, and omniscience god allow his word to be mistranslated?
It obviously translates to baculum, the dick bone.
Which tracks perfectly with both the Bible refering to multiple bones, only a part of which were "taken", and modern Hebrew speakers in the linked thread taking about how "rib" is probably the best translation.
It's also why Spider Monkeys are the second most Chosen primate, since they both lack a bacculum and had their own relative Spider Monkey Eve. Lacking only Spider Monkey Jesus. While Chimpanzees are mere animals, still having their dick bones.
Isn't the story that Eve was a remake after Lilith was kicked out? He needed the rib as "source material"?
Which is kind of a weird requirement when you just made the universe from scratch last week. Like why do we need crafting materials now?
You get infinite free resources during the tutorial.
Needed a Part of Adam so they could long to be together. Like a puzzle piece. Lilith was too independent because she was already whole.
Well, he doesn't really "need" anything... Because omnipotence. He could have just made them long for each other. He could have just made Lilith less independent. Or he could have just made Adam not terrified of the second, unnamed wife... The whole thing really starts to break down the more you think about it :/
Lol I never take the Bible at face value. Wine Is blood of christ and such is ridiculous if literal.
I took the "rib" as a psychological independence humans would have had like solitary cat. Or maybe the "rib" symbolizes is the hormones human feel when being happily around others.
In any case, Something was taken out of humans that led to need for companionship In others so we fit together like a puzzle piece.
Why? Cause the dude is a programmer and like shortcuts.
That's an interesting take, but if it's a metaphor then it's a broken one. Eve never had to lose anything, she's whole and ergo, metaphorically, women wouldn't feel the longing and need for companionship or whatever it is thats meant to be symbolized. If the torah is making a metaphor, then a better interpretation of the text might be that woman is created to be an object of man's desire.
Ironically, the original story of Adam and Lilith being one, conjoined entity that is later split into two by god actually functions much better as a metaphor for human need to find love and companionship, but thats not the story that gets cannonized.
good take.
It to me is not so much like God broke Adam and put it in eve. As much as they both got 1/2 of something the old Adam 1.0 had.
You point still applies regardless.
Ah i see, that's a fair interpretation. I never thought about it like that.
Nah, god just fucked up a little when making Adam, forgot to give him a full set of ribs. The whole female creation myth was just some quick thinking to cover up god's little oopsie and make Adam feel better. In reality, girls don't exist, especially on the internet
I'm all for calling Christian bullshit out but this is a boomer tier meme
I'm a boomer.
Ya know what? Fair enough and good on you for posting.
The answer is Lillith
Because Lillith wasn’t subservient to Adam; God made Eve from Adam to ensure she would always listen to him
Is that why I keep getting attacked by bears? Cos animals aren't subservient to man?
It’s because you keep trying to pet them
But the danger puppy is so fluffy
God created Adam from ~~nothing~~ mud. God is omnipotent. Why was he suddenly so restricted that he couldn't create Eve just from ~~nothing~~ some more mud? Why did he go "darn, I'll need something more, I guess I'll borrow a rib to do that."
I think he made Adam out of mud or something
Fair, it's been a while since I last read it. But my question stands: I guess there was some more mud left...?
My theology is a little rusty so bear with me, but; I believe the teaching here is that initially God did create 'companions' for Adam from the earth by way of creatures/animals/critters/etc and then had Adam go around naming them all. But then it goes on to say something like 'there was not a helper fit for him from them', so God made this "helper" (I'll elaborate on that word) directly from Adam who immediately recognised her as being from himself. Genesis isn't really literal either, especially not the first half of it so think of this more as a metaphor.
If you dive into the linguistics a bit (my memory here is also a bit rusty) the term "helper" is translated from the Hebrew word "ezer" and is the same word used to describe God's relationship with humanity. There's a lot of misinterpretation (understandably so IMO) about the word "helper" in most translations, but what most theologians believe it to mean by the use of the word "ezer" is the relationship between man and woman is collaborative and supportive, and not hierarchical despite the English translation making it sound a bit not like that.
Since Adam was made from mud, his rib was too.
So technically, Eve was also made from mud.
"Do I just boringly make a chick out of mud, again? Nah. I will cripple this guy to make her."
Lilith was created from mud like Adam, and refused to be subservient to him, so Eve was made from Adam as a replacement
Now we're getting somewhere! But if God knows everything, how come he couldn't create the same thing consistently? How come he couldn't forsee that the first method wouldn't work?
What about invertebrate species?
God created eve from adams rib so he could suck his own dick. What a bro
Especially snakes. Ribs to spare.
Interesting question. I thought it said as much in Gen 1:24-25 or Gen 2:19, but a quick scan suggests the first reference to male and female animals is in the Ark arc.
It is possible Gen 2:21 could be interpreted to mean God did the rib thing for all male animals, but I think that'd be an unusual extrapolation. Those verses appear only to be talking about Adam. I think male and female animals were created together in Gen 1:24-25, but I can't point to any specific words that support that.
Ark arc hehe
This is a page for anything that's amusing, interesting, outrageous, or profound.
♦ ♦ ♦
RULES
❶ Each player gets six cards, except the player on the dealer's right, who gets seven.
❷ Posts, comments, and participants must be amusing, interesting, outrageous, or profound.
❸ This page uses Reverse Lemmy-Points™, or 'bad karma'. Please downvote all posts and comments.
❹ Posts, comments, and participants that are not amusing, interesting, outrageous, or profound will be removed.
❺ This is a non-smoking page. If you must smoke, please click away and come back later.
❻ Don't be a dick.
Please also abide by the instance rules.
♦ ♦ ♦
Can't get enough? Visit my blog.
♦ ♦ ♦
Please consider donating to Lemmy and Lemmy.World.
$5 a month is all they ask — an absurdly low price for a Lemmyverse of news, education, entertainment, and silly memes.
