They cost $550, but they're certainly not worth $550
Stop buying logos people
Funnily enough, I don’t think there are any visible Apple logos in the AirPods Max.
They don't literally mean a logo in this case they essentially mean don't buy a brand because of the brand but something because it's good and worthwhile.
I don’t buy logos. I buy products that solve problems in my daily life. Apple comes to be very very good at offering appropriate solutions I don’t need to deal with beforehand to become such a solution. In this case of course the product is crap, if it can’t handle the environment its supposed to work in.
thats why i own apple stocks. as long as consumers are defending the company for even the craziest prizes - i'd be fine
monitor stand 1k ... no problem https://www.apple.com/at/shop/product/MWUG2D/A/pro-stand
wheels for 800 ... no problem https://www.apple.com/at/shop/product/MX572ZM/A/apple-mac-pro-rollen-kit
thunderbold cable for 179 ... no problem https://www.apple.com/at/shop/product/MWP02ZM/A/thunderbolt-4-pro-kabel-3-m
i'm happy when you are ... paying 500 for the headphones is ok if it makes you happy ... not for the value of the headphones, but your happyness is worth much more
It's also just not very good as a product. There are better sounding headphones that cost less money.
It's just oh look shiny shininess.
That's insane. I have the same Bose over-the-ear (I can't stand in-ear) headphones for years. They have been to the gym with me, jogging, and just existing in a humid, Tokyo summer for the last 5.5 years and have zero electronic issues. I did replace the exterior cushiony bit twice now, but the actual electronics are fine.
Do they block outside sound though? AirPods do and the trouble with that is you're also trapping air in with your ears.
And the air being trapped close to your skin will inevitably be a different temperature to the air on the other side of the material. The temperature gradient creates condensation. It's inevitable.
Assuming you want good sound isolation* the solution isn't to avoid condensation, it's to design it so the condensation forms somewhere that it doesn't matter.
(* AirPods sound isolation is so good they have a microphone on the outside which, if it detects a fire/eathquake/etc evacuation siren, will replay that sound with the headphone speaker)
Airpods have good ANC, but they're not magically better than things on the market. My 3 year old Sennheiser Momentum TW2s have better ANC, and cost $250 less.
I have a special interest in ANC over ear headphones for work and travel and do buy nearly every serious contender as soon as it becomes available (I have or had the BOSE QC35, QC35 II, 700, QC45, the SONY WH-1000XM3, XM4, and the AirPods Max. I‘ve yet to buy the XM5s). The AirPods ANC is far beyond the competition especially if it’s cancelling noises other than continuous rumbling like noise spikes, human voices and such. All of them are good or great at blocking background noises (even the original QC35 is still capable enough there), but the AirPods Max are far superior in unpredictable environments. This isn’t some magic BOSE or SONY are incapable of, this is just economics: Apple charges more than double the competition‘s prices, has special access to chips and isn’t just a scammy luxury company without serious RnD, but also has the resources and knowledge to develop outstanding software. This isn’t a judgement on the other factors though: the Max are heavy, their sound is borderline “Beatsy” (no surprise there, since they are probably related), they have nearly no external media control, the bag they come in and the way they are stowed makes them really unwieldy - and first thing you need to do if you receive them is tape over the little “SIM ejector”-like holes under their cushions as the article describes. Their superior ANC comes with a lot of costs attached.
isn’t just a scammy luxury company
Lol
Closed-back headphones and ANC are nothing new, and the Bose QC line (which I assume is what the previous commentator has), are indeed closed-back ANC headphones.
I found your attempts to explain somewhat condscending, and also feel like it's treating the Airpods like they're some revolutionary product, which they're not. Feel free to correct me if that was not your itention.
Do they block outside sound though
They have noise cancellation that works well enough for me (they have more advanced newer versions, but I see no reason to upgrade now). When I first tried my friend's before buying, I complained he ruined the world for me because I never knew how much background could be cut out, heh.
Yeah, the condensation is inevitable and does need to go somewhere. I don't know where it goes with mine, but the headphones keep on working.
Is this another "your holding it wrong" level argument they're making?
I have a lot of apple kit - I appreciate their over-engineered approach to a lot of hardware, and I like their approach to privacy.
But they do make mistakes in design - the puck, the aerials, butterfly keyboards, unrepairability of design…
And one thing I really hate is their response to those errors. Its almost always to blame the user. I just wish they would be honest.
mistakes in design... unrepairability
Who... Who's gonna tell em?
Unrepairability isn't a mistake. It's a feature (for Apple).
I am quite sure this is a legal issue. If they admit the mistake, probably customers in many countries would be allowed a free replacement or refund. And then shareholders would sue the company because it is mandatory to work on maximising profit.
And my dollar store earbuds have gone through the wash three times and still work.
Surely they sound great too. Noise reduction and all
I mean, of course my earbuds sound like garbage, but the airpod max should not break from sweat lol.
This is an Apple miss. Their tendency for status equaling heavy materials and lack of obvious options just makes it a no-go for me. Noise cancelling, wireless, over the ear headphones exist for airplanes. Having a headset that is heavy, that doesn’t fold and can’t be turned off (only put to sleep in a dumb bra-like case) don’t meet that mark.
I’m sure they sound great and the magnetic ear cups a good idea, but this is a miss for me. The price is the final nail in the coffin. My Sony XM4s sound nearly as good, can be worn for long flights without fatigue, fold up, and because they’re light but sturdy plastic I’m not worried about them denting or anything like that if I drop them. And I didn’t have to pay over $500 for them.
I tested them and they don't even sound that great. For the price, there are a lot of WAY better options out there.
But that is the case with many Apple products.
Apple has done the math and it’s cheaper to deny deny deny than to do the right thing. And that’s factoring in the inevitable class action lawsuit payouts.
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The Max might have more questionable design decisions than any Apple product in history
The Magic Mouse would like a word.
Magic Mouse: charging port on bottom
AirPods Max: can’t turn off without putting in case, can’t use wired, condensation death
And the puck mouse.
Please - while connecting the cable to the bottom is less than ideal, it's still var better than swapping out batteries.
It's not like they need to be plugged in all day - if it dies on you, fill up your glass of water and you'll be fine. Also low battery warnings appear weeks before it goes flat.
Still dumb design, since my mouse I can use wired as it charges without interruption.
The fact that it even needs excuses like go fill up a glass of water as you wait shows why.
I'm sorry but that's not the true. The battery is die all the sodding time.
When I worked in an office I used to switch the magic mouse off anytime I wasn't actually using it. Going to the toilet switch the mouse off, going to get a drink switch the mouse off, somebody comes over to talk to me and I don't need to use the computer switch the mouse off. All this just to extend the battery life.
I then replaced it with a generic Bluetooth mouse that uses one AA battery, and I've had it for over 2 years at this point and never needed to replace the AA battery. So either lithium ion has less storage capacity than a chemical battery or the magic mouse has a teeny tiny microscopic battery.
perhaps don't buy overpriced crap like that and go for the $30 pair on Amazon instead
Never had this issue with mine. I’ve taken them kayaking with me, they got pretty wet and i got pretty sweaty, but the insides of the cups were dry. This has been discussed on forums ever since i bought them more than two years ago. This feels like recycled news just to stir people up about apple products. Good journalism. It worked.
Just had it happen to me a few months ago
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