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submitted 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) by UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml to c/firefox@lemmy.ml

Almost all the links in my front homepage are sponsored now. What's next, a few ads in the bookmark bar? How about when I enter a URL, I then have to type "McDonald's" before I can actually navigate there?

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[-] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 110 points 20 hours ago

This has been the case for several years. Super easy to turn them off

[-] figjam@midwest.social 7 points 19 hours ago

Cool. Willing to say how or is that a secret?

[-] stevedice@sh.itjust.works 64 points 19 hours ago

It's a secret reserved for smart people

[-] Felling_High_Horses@endlesstalk.org 1 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

https://www.ingentaconnect.com/content/sbp/sbp/1990/00000018/00000002/art00014

Oh noooo. Sounds like you're about to off yourself. What a huuuuge* loss. Anyway.

Edit because I didn't write enough mourning u's.

[-] lemmeBe@sh.itjust.works 1 points 13 hours ago

🚀 🕳 🤣

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[-] GenderNeutralBro@lemmy.sdf.org 27 points 18 hours ago

In Settings > Home, there's a Sponsored Shortcuts checkbox.

[-] figjam@midwest.social 8 points 18 hours ago
[-] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 30 points 19 hours ago

There is a settings gear icon on that literal page that says customize next to it iirc

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[-] subtext@lemmy.world 275 points 23 hours ago

These can be turned off. Not great that they’re on by default, but you gotta pay the bills somehow right?

[-] Kushan@lemmy.world 8 points 14 hours ago

People keep giving Mozilla shit for taking money from Google, yet they see an ad for a different company and lose their shit.

[-] davel@lemmy.ml 131 points 22 hours ago

I think the downvoters can’t hold these two thoughts in their mind at the same time:

  1. Firefox is the best browser.
  2. Firefox has serious problems because Mozilla is a terrible steward of it.
[-] comfy@lemmy.ml 44 points 20 hours ago

Firefox is the best browser

It's only real competitors, in my eyes, are Firefox forks.

[-] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 33 points 21 hours ago

Agreed. I love Firefox and don't really like Mozilla.

[-] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 4 points 16 hours ago

Let the people downvote. These points don't matter. I turned off the visibility of points. I am immune, my morale is unbreakable. The downvoters have no power here!

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[-] stevedice@sh.itjust.works 59 points 20 hours ago

Skill issue 1000017516

[-] Nastybutler@lemmy.world 3 points 12 hours ago

Don't give them any ideas

[-] zoostation@lemmy.world 72 points 23 hours ago

Just turn it off. If they don't have income they don't exist.

[-] davel@lemmy.ml 35 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago)

Mozilla already has Scrooge McDuck amounts of money. It doesn’t need any more to maintain a browser and an email client.

From jwz, who founded Mozilla & Firefox:

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Mozilla had a duty to preserve the open web.

Instead they cosplayed as a startup, chasing product dreams of "growth hacking", with Google's ad money as their stand-in for a VC-funding firehose, with absolutely predictable and tragic results.

And those dreams of growth and market penetration failed catastrophically anyway.

(Except for the C-suite, who made out quite well. And Google, who got exactly what they paid for: a decade of antitrust-prosecution insurance. It was never about ad revenue. The on-paper existence of Firefox as a hypothetical competitor kept the Federal wolves at bay, and that's all Google cared about.)


Now hear me out, but What If...? browser development was in the hands of some kind of nonprofit organization?

As I have said many times:

In my humble but correct opinion, Mozilla should be doing two things and two things only:

  1. Building THE reference implementation web browser, and
  2. Being a jugular-snapping attack dog on standards committees.
  3. There is no 3.
[-] adarza@lemmy.ca 29 points 21 hours ago

Mozilla already has Scrooge McDuck amounts of money

no. they don't.

the google money that they rely too heavily on, may not always be there. they need more diverse funding. these paid placements, which can be turned off, are one way to do that.

turn off and delete the sponsored stuff at install, never see 'em again. it's not like they're microsoft or something, constantly turning that kind of shit back on with every-other-update.

[-] davel@lemmy.ml 22 points 22 hours ago

https://www.jwz.org/blog/2024/06/mozilla-is-an-advertising-company-now/#comment-249969

Preemptive subtwit.

Let's say you run a nonprofit animal shelter. And for some reason, some people feel you should be seeing hockey-stick growth, but the donations aren't covering it.

So you decide to start up a side-line of selling kittens for meat.

Then you will inevitably have someone stroking their chin and saying, 'Yes, yes, but how could they afford to stay open if they weren't selling kitten deli slices?"

Some might say -- maybe you aren't an animal shelter any more. Some might say.

[-] JubilantJaguar@lemmy.world 8 points 21 hours ago

While this analysis is somewhat convincing, let's not forget that for now Firefox is all we have. Important not to throw the baby out with the bathwater.

In my ideal scenario, Mozilla becomes like the Wikimedia Foundation. Which has somehow also accumulated "Scrooge McDuck amounts" of cash but seems to be on a firmer footing and better managed.

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[-] Gingerlegs@lemmy.world 28 points 21 hours ago
[-] Ephera@lemmy.ml 8 points 16 hours ago

And Brave has significantly lower costs, given they don't develop an own engine, but rather just put lipstick onto Chromium.

[-] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 7 points 16 hours ago

I bailed on brave when I learned more about the shenanigans that one dude pulled.

[-] Artyom@lemm.ee 20 points 20 hours ago

Or, ya know, literally any other browser that's not a fork of Firefox.

[-] Jimmycakes@lemmy.world 21 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

Either that or they go bankrupt. Design your own browser and give it out for free if you don't like it

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[-] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 9 points 19 hours ago
[-] LWD@lemm.ee 13 points 22 hours ago

I thought you said "What's next, a few ads in the URL bar?" ...because Mozilla has put a few ads in the URL bar.

[-] FooBarrington@lemmy.world 1 points 13 hours ago

And even if you disable this, your address bar still randomly breaks, but instead of suggesting an ad it just doesn't suggest anything.

Fuck you, Mozilla.

[-] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 2 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

Was trying to reference this

Maybe I should have added a paragraph somewhere in there. I was typing fast because I only get so much time on my break at work.

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[-] TxTechnician@lemmy.ml 7 points 20 hours ago

I think the best viable option for them is to either offer a subscription model. Or increase requests for donations.

[-] festnt@sh.itjust.works 3 points 16 hours ago

what would a subscription even do?

[-] ComradePedro@lemmy.ml 2 points 13 hours ago

Id say support Firefox development, maybe premium access to some of Mozilla's services, possibly cosmetics in browser

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[-] lowleveldata@lemmy.world 11 points 22 hours ago

How do you get this? My home page just has some recent links

[-] superkret@feddit.org 17 points 22 hours ago

Depending on where you got Firefox from, default settings are different. Maybe your distro ships with these deactivated.

[-] lemmeBe@sh.itjust.works 6 points 21 hours ago

Yep. I get it from Librewolf. 😁

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