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submitted 2 months ago by Dop@lemmy.world to c/privacy@lemmy.ml

That's it, I get an error message whenever I try to post or comment if I'm connected to my VPN, butnot trouble if I just get disconnected. Does not fit the idea of decentralized social media I had, but overall I'm mainly curious as to the reason why it is so.

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[-] dessalines@lemmy.ml 49 points 2 months ago

Lemmy has nothing in its code that blocks VPNs. Unfortunately a lot of instances use cloudflare and other man-in-the-middle services that do block VPNs.

[-] slazer2au@lemmy.world 25 points 2 months ago

Because so many bad actors use VPNs for ban evasion or span sources, blocking the VPN endpoints from posting or commenting is a low hanging fruit way of dealing with some spam. This is Lemmy.World stance.

There are many others instances that work over VPNs so in the spirit of decentralization you can use another instance to access lemmy.world content.

[-] Ulrich@feddit.org 17 points 2 months ago

It also prevents normal people from using Lemmy at all...

[-] MachineFab812@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 2 months ago

lemmy.world is NOT "Lemmy"

Hell, during the great reddit migration, if I recall correctly, lemmy.world had to cap sign-ups.

[-] Ulrich@feddit.org 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

It is a massive portion of Lemmy. And it doesn't just stop people from signing up, it stops people from participating in any way.

[-] MachineFab812@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 2 months ago

You yourself aren't even using a lemmy.world account. Your take on the matter is backwards and bizarre.

[-] Ulrich@feddit.org 1 points 2 months ago

...please re-read the comment you just replied to.

[-] HootinNHollerin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 2 months ago

Does .World think it’s their content?

[-] HootinNHollerin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 21 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

One of many reasons to change instances

[-] Blaze@lemmy.zip 17 points 2 months ago

Lemmy.dbzer0.com for the win

[-] 7U5K3N@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 2 months ago

That's where I went when I left .world. :)

[-] zdhzm2pgp@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 months ago

Why did you leave .world, if you don't mind my asking, and just out of curiosity?

[-] 7U5K3N@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 2 months ago

Dbzer0 was a better fit for me. I like the way it's ran.. just all around a better experience for me.

[-] irotsoma 3 points 2 months ago

Not OP but I left because of the proposed change in moderation policy to allow "free speech" that basically would negate the anti-hate-speech policy.

[-] unlawfulbooger 19 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

It might depend on the lemmy instance you are posting to (lemmy.ml) and/or where you have your account (lemmy.world), because I don’t think that this is built into the AP protocol.

I suspect at least one of these uses some kind of filtering mechanism that blocks VPN users, like cloudflare’s CDN.

[-] SqueakyBeaver 4 points 2 months ago

btw, I think you may have mixed up the instances. The user is on .world and the post is on .ml

Other than that, you're probably correct

[-] unlawfulbooger 3 points 2 months ago

Oh yeah, hahaha.

Thanks, I’ll fix it.

[-] Tiger@sh.itjust.works 19 points 2 months ago

Aye good to know some instances block VPNs , didn’t know that. As a user from China who has to use a VPN always that would be problematic. Guys I got lucky with my instance.

Shit really just works

[-] ToadOfHypnosis@lemmy.ml 16 points 2 months ago

I used to have the same issue with lemmy.world - it’s the instance

[-] NOT_RICK_SANCHEZ@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago

This is it! Instance blocks it.

[-] Sir_Kevin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 2 months ago

.world is a fickle bitch in general. It would be good if more users and communities balanced out amongst other instances.

[-] krnl386@lemmy.ca 8 points 2 months ago

Get a free VPS from Oracle cloud in whatever region you want, run Wireguard on it. There, now you have a VPN that you control, and since it’s hosted by Oracle, and not a VPN company, there’s no way to “detect” it.

[-] evujumenuk@lemmy.world 13 points 2 months ago

Like basically all cloud providers, Oracle publish their public-facing IP address ranges.

https://docs.oracle.com/en-us/iaas/Content/General/Concepts/addressranges.htm

Many services block these because, as you are pointing out, standing up VPN tunnel routing on a cloud instance is sort of trivial. Cloud providers publish these ranges specifically so anyone can block them easily. If lemmy.world is not blocking Oracle Cloud already, it's only because they just haven't come around to it.

[-] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 2 months ago

I assure you that's detectable. The VPN detector I know, classifies all cloud providers as VPN as a matter of course, because no normal user would be coming from a cloud network.

[-] umami_wasbi@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 months ago

Or better, run your own instance, rather than a VPN.

[-] krnl386@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 months ago

Yup, good point. One can run a private instance for “selfish” reasons.

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