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[-] Sanctus@lemmy.world 153 points 1 week ago

Good luck convincing the rubes that. Literally heard jokes about "global warming" today in the office. Had to say, well its climate change actually and wild shit means its not doing good.

[-] bandwidthcrisis@lemmy.world 55 points 1 week ago

Should have called it "climate instability" or "climate chaos" from the start.

[-] 474D@lemmy.world 37 points 1 week ago

It shouldn't have been "save the planet", it should have been "save the humans" because the planet will be here long after we're gone

[-] deadbeef79000@lemmy.nz 18 points 1 week ago

"war on summer" might be the only one that works

[-] photonic_sorcerer@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Climate Crisis is my preferred term. Gets the point across quite nicely.

[-] gwilikers@lemmy.ml 16 points 1 week ago

'It's not okay to be this stupid.'

[-] EFrances@lemmy.eco.br 2 points 1 week ago

Speaking of which ~

5 Physics Equations Everyone Should Know

https://www.wired.com/story/5-physics-equations-everyone-should-know/

[-] OpenStars@piefed.social 10 points 1 week ago

Please don't get yourself fired!? Facts themselves are political these days:-(.

[-] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 141 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Honestly we are way past the point of any scientific reasoning. The public has voted that they are uninterested, and the US government and large corporations are about to be uninterested too.

To be blunt… No one ever really cared, but the world kinda squeaked by putting scientists in front of statesmen and public broadcasts. Everyone kinda nodded along, and not just for global warming.

That period is over.

[-] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 31 points 1 week ago

A few people cared, fewer did anything about it. Most were more concerned with mass production of cheap shit.

Got a heat pump to replace the gas boiler, bike instead of car and replaced the concrete paved garden with what will hopefully become a wildflower meadow with shrubs on the edges. You can actually just stop buying a lot of the stuff that is causing these problems.

[-] Comrade_Spood@slrpnk.net 2 points 5 days ago

The issue was never the average person. Corporations have always been the issue. Even if everyone on the planet tried to live as green as possible, the corporations would still cause too much damage for us to undo. The only way the average person could have made an impact was by attacking the corporations and their means of polluting the planet. That meant sabotaging their facilities. But the climate change movement was too focused on peaceful protest, and there has been evidence that points the blame for this on the corporations once again. For everyone, the issue wasn't that they weren't willing to live green enough (which is true that most people just didn't bother, but it isn't what caused the issue of climate change in the first place and wouldn't have been the answer either), it was that they weren't willing to risk their life and privileges to dismantle the system that caused it. The threat of climate change was not imminent or tangible enough for people to take real action.

[-] in4apenny@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 week ago

God people like you make it sound so easy and then I tried it to find it's actually even easier.

[-] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 4 points 1 week ago

I know! Its so easy its great! Plus its generally cheaper too, so I don't have to work very hard and I still have enough money. God damn life is easy.

[-] Krauerking@lemy.lol 4 points 1 week ago

Your actions you promote taking care only possible by those who own houses and have the means and funds to cover the replacements.
I understand you will say the wildflowers is basically free but it takes time that you have a privilege of having.

If that's where you set the positive actions that people can take most will not be able to achieve them and view you poorly for bragging about it.

[-] trxxruraxvr@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago

No one ever really cared

That's just not true. The problem is that the people who care were never the kind of people who'd come into power in our society.

[-] KeenFlame@feddit.nu 15 points 1 week ago

No actually the people are interested and the megacorps still destroys the planet because they have no soul they worship only profit

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[-] BigBrainBrett2517@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

Dayum. Well said. Though some people cared. We, the few, and Al Gore, for example. The great majority, no. It does appear that period is over, I agree. Perhaps this is how it has been for the last 4-5 decades. Maybe this hope's death will be the last in our history.

[-] parody@lemmings.world 3 points 1 week ago
[-] Agent641@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

It's ok, some life will survive, but the human pests will be eradicated.

[-] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 week ago

There could be more options to choose from if we enacted electoral reform and gave voters the freedom to vote outside the two party system with no spoiler effect.

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[-] Rhaedas@fedia.io 56 points 1 week ago

The graphic isn't all that accurate. The text says a colder period is because of a warmer planet but then the cold area from a meandering jet stream looks larger. The missing part is the warmer air that leaks into the polar areas, causing a feedback loop by further deteriorating the balance of cold and warm that drives the jet stream.

[-] stebo02@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

this one might be more clear. still the same story though

[-] Rhaedas@fedia.io 3 points 1 week ago

It's a bit prettier. What's missing (and I know this is meme territory so it's not a big deal) is how the jet stream is not just weak and wandering, but literally breaking in places and that's where warm air into the poles happens. And it's not hard to understand warmer where there's normally ice means less ice.

[-] TheBat@lemmy.world 46 points 1 week ago

Sounds too complicated to be true. Obvious explanation is Jewish Space Laser!

[-] Kanda@reddthat.com 14 points 1 week ago

Ha, you believe in space

[-] in4apenny@lemmy.dbzer0.com 32 points 1 week ago

You need to convince them the Earth is a sphere first.

[-] Agent641@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago

Then we need to convince them to build more big red arrows to keep the blue stuff up the top

[-] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 week ago

Wouldn't a big red circle have more power then smaller individual red arrows?

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[-] werefreeatlast@lemmy.world 25 points 1 week ago

I'll distribute the leopards. If you're Republican or voted for the pile of shit, just see one of the leopards. Tell them to go back where they came from, they'll know what to do. They're trained, it only takes a second. Pretty painless during... I assume. Oh it's figurative speech? Never mind! I'll get the pumas back. It was pumas right? Ew, I think this one already ate a face. Sorry sorry...

[-] Emmie@lemm.ee 8 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I guess the intent matters but that was kinda painful to read. I give 3 points for the intentions and effort but the execution gets 0.7 scores all across the board

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[-] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 23 points 1 week ago

From that picture it looks like the weak jet stream is the problem. We just need to build a ton of wind farms across Canada to blow it harder so that it becomes more powerful. Easy.

[-] trxxruraxvr@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

If we want the wind farms to blow we'll have to power them using fossil fuels of course. It's the only solution.

[-] nossaquesapao@lemmy.eco.br 4 points 1 week ago

And the pollution isn't a problem, because the strong winds generated will dissipate it away.

Oh, and the entire system must be ai-based

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[-] frunch@lemmy.world 19 points 1 week ago

That's science though, the people that don't believe it will not be convinced by smart people sharing their discoveries.

[-] jrubal1462@mander.xyz 1 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

But remember when we found out CFC's were damaging the ozone layer? Somehow scientists convinced everybody to switch to more expensive, less effective refrigerants, and then it all got better. Gosh, we didn't know how good we had it back then.

[-] BleatingZombie@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

I feel like you hit the nail on the head. It's not that they don't understand it. I don't understand most of this, but I can try

There are people out there who just don't believe and therefore will never try to understand

[-] ulterno@programming.dev 2 points 1 week ago

Go instead with:

Humans helping the global warming demons is causing the polar ice cap gods to become weaker, who in turn are unable to contain the cold yin winds in the poles, causing them to move to your house.

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[-] anindefinitearticle@sh.itjust.works 14 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Fun fact, when the jet stream gets perturbed like that and develops the sinusoidal deviations that we are experiencing, it's called a Rossby wave.

These waves are actually super normal as the jetstream shifts with the seasons and moves north/south, especially when in a La Niña phase of the ENSO, which we are in right now.

The Hadley circulation cells whose boundaries define the jet stream are driven by convection. The US lies right along a jetstream boundary between two cells, and just downwind from the pacific ocean, so our weather is particularly sensitive to the temperature differences across the pacific ocean.

El Niño patterns have a hot equatorial pacific ocean which drives significant convection on the southern cell of the jet stream crossing the US, stabilizing it. La Niña patterns have a smaller gradient between the temperatures in the cells to the north and south of the relevant jet stream, especially as climate change relatively warms the arctic faster, leading to higher amplitude destabilizations during La Niña patterns like we are experiencing now.

More fun facts about these Rossby waves: they have been proposed as the mechanism to drive the eddies that end up forming planets in protoplanetary disks around baby stars (see the wikipedia page for Rossby waves above), and as the mechanism behind the hexagonal shape of Saturn's polar cell. Worth noting that the exact mechanism for that hexagon is still highly debated, but Peter Gierasch used to have a fun model using a modified record turn table to create a rossby wave that formed a hexagon as a proof-of-concept that has stuck with me.

[-] rumschlumpel@feddit.org 7 points 1 week ago

Weird, we're experiencing the opposite in Europe.

[-] protist@mander.xyz 29 points 1 week ago

That's because the polar vortex slid off the Arctic onto North America, allowing warmer air to creep northward on your side of the globe. I remember in '21, while we had record cold in the southern US, Siberia was on fire.

[-] Deme@sopuli.xyz 11 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

This. The meme is inaccurate in that the polar vortex is in fact currently unusually strong. It's just unusually shaped and oddly elongated. I hope the two following images show up correctly.

Strength of the polar vortex. Blue line is this winter:

source: http://weatheriscool.com/

Map showing the mean 500 hPa geopotential height and surface (2m) temperature anomalies for this week, as forecasted on Monday by ECMW:

source: https://charts.ecmwf.int/products/extended-anomaly-multi-param?base_time=202501200000&projection=opencharts_arctic&valid_time=202501270000

[-] Scott_of_the_Arctic@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

Parts of Siberia are still on fire. Slava Ukraine

[-] starman2112@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 week ago

Yuuup. A few years ago, when the entire United States was experiencing record lows, the Earth had an above average overall temperature. Imagine how hot everywhere other than the United States must have been, if the average was still higher despite our record lows.

[-] drolex@sopuli.xyz 4 points 1 week ago
[-] drthunder@midwest.social 4 points 1 week ago

It's just nature's hernia

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