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submitted 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) by Brainsploosh@lemmy.world to c/nostupidquestions@lemmy.world

I'm not in the US, but it seems to me that the Republicans keep breaking norms and procedures, including politicising impeachment and ignoring illegal, immoral and plain bad conduct.

They also seem to be fine with not applying the same standard across the isle.

On the other hand, either Democrats follow new precedent, with even more devolving, or they keep the old decorum and get their asses kicked by Republican foul play.

What ways out of this spiral are there?

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[-] SoJB@lemmy.ml 7 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Yes, actually two folks figured it out over 100 years ago and wrote several books on exactly how to exit the spiral, including predicting exactly this spiral you describe to the letter.

Then y’all called us tankies and told us to fuck off, so nah. You deserve Trump and the collapse of America.

[-] prole 5 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

It was more than just two folks, but the point stands...

Except the tankie part. Nobody's ever called me that. Probably because I'm not a psycho

[-] ECB@feddit.org 6 points 2 weeks ago

The Republicans are much better about using topics they don't care as much about to generate support so they can achieve the ones they do.

The Democrats tend to want to die on every hill, which is ultimately a losing strategy.

[-] Lightsong@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago

Join your local advocacy organizations, volunteer and make the difference in your community/local area. It'll have more impact for you than you can ever do via federal level.

[-] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 6 points 2 weeks ago
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[-] HubertManne@moist.catsweat.com 5 points 2 weeks ago

The democrats follow newprecedent to a point but not such that it just breaks the law. Like they would not try to define a sentence in the constitution to invalidate the whole paragraph thus making a paragraph that was written by the founding fathers to nullify itself thus calling the founding fathers brain dead dumb fucks. That being said they did sign off on the patriot act and have not acted to nullify citizens united. I live in the US so I sure as fuck hope we can but its been going on since the 80's with increasing acceleration. One of my biggest concerns is the most recent coming of age generation has no experience with somewhat sane political discourse.

[-] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 2 weeks ago

Emigration or civil war, I'd wager. My home country will be a fascist state during my lifetime, as I've been saying for about three to four years.

[-] Siegfried@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago

Yep... war or a plane

[-] hperrin@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 weeks ago

The only way I see out of it is not a way I like or am willing to talk about online. Let’s just say the second amendment is making more and more sense every day.

[-] AA5B@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I’m still optimistic. While the severity of the current shitshow is unprecedented, the reality is we tend to bounce left and right. One side gets in power and does (or doesn’t) shit, until people get pissed off and elect the other side.

I am more worried about the death of media and rise of streaming. Just like the rise of TV changed who could be elected and how, new media is also changing that. So far new media helps elect people with dark skills, people farther from anyone you’d want governing. It’s not pretty, it’s not good, and it’s getting worse before it gets better. Truth doesn’t matter, echo chambers matter, outrage matters.

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[-] earphone843@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 weeks ago

3 is the only thing that'll work, but things are going to get much worse before it'll happen. The system is fundamentally and irreparably broken and needs to be thrown out.

[-] RoboRay@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Just wait it out for a few more years and things will settle down. This isn't anything new... the US has gone through a very similar period of political upheaval and realigning of parties every two or three generations since it was founded. This one isn't even the worst we've had.

Edit: Sorry, I didn't realize you all are part of the problem.

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